Nerds_feather
Purveyor of Nerdliness
I'd like to share a very interesting article I read today, on the prevalence of rape in fantasy (and popular culture at large). The article is worth reading in full, as it's quite compelling (and I think more compelling--and nuanced--than some similar arguments I've read in the past).
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I thought I'd stick it here instead of the main page for two reasons:
1. The topic may be too disturbing for some people to get involved with, and I'd like to respect that.
2. The topic may inflame passions, and I'd hope that putting this thread in the SFFLounge might suggest that everyone who does reply do so in a civil and respectful manner.
Choice quote #1:
Choice quote #2:
I look forward to hearing people's responses to the full article.
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I thought I'd stick it here instead of the main page for two reasons:
1. The topic may be too disturbing for some people to get involved with, and I'd like to respect that.
2. The topic may inflame passions, and I'd hope that putting this thread in the SFFLounge might suggest that everyone who does reply do so in a civil and respectful manner.
Choice quote #1:
Last year, halfway through the second book of the series, I gave up readingA Song of Ice and Fire. I had enjoyed the first novel very much – I liked the sense that the fantastic elements were providing a different lens on the Middle Ages, removing the sense that there was something default or inevitable about mediaeval European culture, and re-revealing the fundamental strangeness of a world of knights and kings. I enjoyed the resonances with specific episodes in real history – the War of the Roses, the Jacobite rebellions. It reminded me of the songs by the Corries that I, a fake Scot, grew up on. I even enjoyed all the freaking heraldry and food.
That sense of history seemed to be dwindling away a bit in the second book, but in the end, that wasn’t what drove me away.
Instead, it was all the rape.
Choice quote #2:
To briefly return to A Song of Ice and Fire: The Black Watch, an all-male organisation that’s a bit like the Catholic church and a bit like the military, has a bit of a bullying problem.Some of the recruits are explicitly "rapers". But none of the bullying turns sexual, not even from characters who have form as perpetrators of sexual violence. None of the boys suffers rape. Neither do any of the male peasants who are taken prisoner at various points by various factions. Despite being smaller and weaker than most of his male peers, Tyrion does not get raped, nor is he made to fear rape, either when captured by enemy noblemen or surrounded by hundreds of violent, volatile outlaws. They threaten to kill him, even to mutilate him, but not to rape him. Why not? Isn’t this supposed to be a grim, ruthless,realistic world?
Men, if you’re feeling a bit queasy at the idea of so many beloved characters suffering rape – if you’re feeling creeped out by someone enthusiastically arguing in favour of them being raped because it’s too bad if it upsets you, it’srealistic… Well, hi. Welcome to the world of women.
I look forward to hearing people's responses to the full article.