Koopa
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Recently, i've begun a re-read of ADWD. And since i was doing a re-read, i figured i might as well take a leaf out of Srylanna's book and post my thoughts on the chapters I re-read.
Varamyr Prologue
- Claims he can seize the body of another human, making it his permanently. Later in the book we see Bran taking control of Hodor, but only for short periods of time. Afterwards he always returns to his own body. If what Varamyr say is true, it should be possible for a skinchanger if strong enough to permanently take the skin of another human being (we actually read about Varamyr attempting this in the prologue with Thistle). I wonder what happens to the 'soul' of the other human. Varamyr took Orell's eagle, in which at the time Orell was having his second life. Orell's presence initially was felt strongly. It faded over time. So in that case Orell faded away, he did not merge with Varamyr. Not sure if the same would apply when taking over another human. We do know Hodor is frightened when Bran takes over. Plus in GRRM's world it is probably easier for Bran to take control over a simpleton like Hodor than a 'regular' human being. I don't think the fysiology of the human brain works like that in real life but it's a story. Whenever Bran does take over Hodor, his vocabulary remained stuck at Hodor'ing.
- Varamyr finds himself in One-Eye (one of his wolves) for his second life when he dies.
- Thistle after becoming a wight, sees Varamyr as wolf. Wether this means she sees the living wolf or the warg/human in the wolf, i'm not sure.
Varamyr Prologue
- Claims he can seize the body of another human, making it his permanently. Later in the book we see Bran taking control of Hodor, but only for short periods of time. Afterwards he always returns to his own body. If what Varamyr say is true, it should be possible for a skinchanger if strong enough to permanently take the skin of another human being (we actually read about Varamyr attempting this in the prologue with Thistle). I wonder what happens to the 'soul' of the other human. Varamyr took Orell's eagle, in which at the time Orell was having his second life. Orell's presence initially was felt strongly. It faded over time. So in that case Orell faded away, he did not merge with Varamyr. Not sure if the same would apply when taking over another human. We do know Hodor is frightened when Bran takes over. Plus in GRRM's world it is probably easier for Bran to take control over a simpleton like Hodor than a 'regular' human being. I don't think the fysiology of the human brain works like that in real life but it's a story. Whenever Bran does take over Hodor, his vocabulary remained stuck at Hodor'ing.
- Varamyr finds himself in One-Eye (one of his wolves) for his second life when he dies.
- Thistle after becoming a wight, sees Varamyr as wolf. Wether this means she sees the living wolf or the warg/human in the wolf, i'm not sure.
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