Everything wrong with the original Star Wars films

Brian G Turner

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This is a couple of years old, but I only just watched it. And despite the troll-sounding title, I found it surprisingly entertaining.

So, what's wrong with the original trilogy? Here you go: :)

 
You're right Brian. Quite entertaining.

There are a few things that are easily wrong, but some things are wrong only because Star Wars was a stand alone film originally and mistakes only occur after Lucas shoe horns in plot ideas that he hadn't thought of originally.
 
I enjoyed that video, even though it was lengthy. And the criticisms don't change the fact that Star Wars has been one of the most influencial movies in my life. :)

One thing I disagree with is his assessment of the Force. Yes, Yoda did say anger is the path to the dark side. And yes, Luke became angry at an appropriate time but overcame it. This is not necessarily contradictory. We all love Yoda as the wise, almost all knowing teacher. Yet it is not unbelievable that he was wrong. Even if you choose to ignore the prequels, it is clear that the Jedi have fallen. Whatever they thought of themselves, they couldn't have been perfect in their understanding of the Force or they wouldn't have been destroyed by the Emperor. I believe Luke was later able to lead a new and improved Jedi order based on his wisdom from experience - not avoidance.
 
Got eight minutes in before the Terry Christian accent caused blood to start seeping from my ears; this even though within the first few minutes he started bashing Jar Jar :eyeroll: really? Bashing Jar Jar? I'm so over this sulking about the prequels and the SEs and all that.

I realised a couple of years ago when hearing how people react to bad editing in books/typos/unlikeable characters/lackofimmediatehook that they 'throw the book down' that I am far more tolerant of things so I put it down to that. However, I am a fanboy but I'm not one of the ones he asserts cried out at the prequels, Jar Jar, SEs, the (often-appalling) script.

The background horizon of The Mona Lisa is wonky.

pH
 
Phyrebrat said:
Got eight minutes in before the Terry Christian accent caused blood to start seeping from my ears; this even though within the first few minutes he started bashing Jar Jar :eyeroll: really? Bashing Jar Jar? I'm so over this sulking about the prequels and the SEs and all that.
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You might have bailed too soon... he only mentions Jar-Jar for the same reason, to point out that it's a lazy scapegoat and the originals had plenty of their own issues. 9-1 were much more interesting than 10 and Jar-Jar.
 
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Okay, okay; I'll give it another try then - he does have a very annoying voice though :)

pH
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I will admit, I never heard that accent before and it was making me bonkers. But the list is pretty entertaining if you don't mind poking fun at some of the decisions made.
 
I overcame his annoying accent and totally agree with everything he said. It is hardly news though, and most of the criticism would not apply if Star Wars was a stand alone film (what you know as Ep IV). The hole in the Death Star got me when I first watched it in 1977 though!
 
When I saw it 1977 , all I did was sit back and enjoy the film. It was great fun. I didn't notice the flubs and inaccuracies and wouldn't have cared if I had noticed them. (y)
 
BAYLOR said:
When I saw it 1977 , all I did was sit back and enjoy the film. It was great fun. I didn't notice the flubs and inaccuracies and wouldn't have cared if I had noticed them. (y)
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For anyone who wasn't around in 1977, and wonders why people considered it such a big event despite any flaws it might contain:

Have them watch Star Wars.
Then watch Damnation Alley.
Then tell them that Damnation Alley was supposed to be the big SF blockbuster of 1977.
Then they shall be enlightened.
 
The queue for Star Wars went out of the cinema doors and then around the block, twice around the block. People watched it, then went back in and watched it again. This, at a time when cinema audiences had been decreasing year-on-year for over a decade, and when cinemas thought that their only future was in multiplexes showing made-for-TV films.

This month, I expect that Star Wars will be shown on every screen at once, all day long. I can't think I will ever see queues that long again though.
 
Dave said:
The queue for Star Wars went out of the cinema doors and then around the block, twice around the block. People watched it, then went back in and watched it again. This, at a time when cinema audiences had been decreasing year-on-year for over a decade, and when cinemas thought that their only future was in multiplexes showing made-for-TV films.

This month, I expect that Star Wars will be shown on every screen at once, all day long. I can't think I will ever see queues that long again though.
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I remember that too. I remember it was my uncle, who had already seen it, showing up and taking me along without telling me what we were doing. Then we stood on line for more than two hours. I remember pretty much complaining the whole time. I don't know how my uncle stood it, but he kept telling me to wait, it'll be worth it. He was absolutely right.
 
Edward M. Grant said:
For anyone who wasn't around in 1977, and wonders why people considered it such a big event despite any flaws it might contain:

Have them watch Star Wars.
Then watch Damnation Alley.
Then tell them that Damnation Alley was supposed to be the big SF blockbuster of 1977.
Then they shall be enlightened.
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In the case of Damnation Alley , the Geniuses that ran the studio , took a great Post Apocalyptic novel and turned it into a chap crappy B movie which had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with novel. :mad:
 
BAYLOR said:
In the case of Damnation Alley , the Geniuses that ran the studio , took a great Post Apocalyptic novel and turned it into a chap crappy B movie which had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with novel. :mad:
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Yeah, that's what puzzled me. All they had to do was take the novel and turn it into a movie script, but they couldn't manage that!
 
Edward M. Grant said:
Yeah, that's what puzzled me. All they had to do was take the novel and turn it into a movie script, but they couldn't manage that!
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It's nothing unusual for Hollywood. The moguls refused to give financial backing to the German produced Stalingrad unless the writers gave it a happy ending:rolleyes:

It's also worth watching Ed Wood's Bride Of The Monster with the inexplicable explosion at the end. Then watch Tim Burton's biopic (mainly based around the making of Bride Of The Monster) and you see that the financial backer wanted an explosion or he wasn't parting with his cash. It all makes sense after that.:)
 
The Force Awakens is a certified box office juggernaut. J J Abrams is really really going to be in demand now. :)
 
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