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Hello, just wanted some feedback on this scene. It occurs in the middle of a chapter.
Particularly want to know how I can improve the emotional descriptions as well as the fight itself.
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Since construction of the Vactrain, the underground pathway had fallen into disuse and neglect. The heavily worn cement was scarred with asymmetric cracks and crevices. Overhead, several of the ancient sealed-beam lights were extinguished or flickering. The black painted signs on the walls were chipped or missing, some taped over with hand-written equivalents.

As they walked, he grew irritated at the slow pace of his shorter-legged companions. He was about to voice this complaint when he heard the sound of approaching footfalls.

“SCAR trainees,” Baker said, waving them towards the wall.

He glanced down the corridor as a large ranger led a band of barely adult men towards them. The group was uniformly dressed in black cargo pants and dark blue shirts with the SCAR logo - a hideously fanged rat superimposed on two scythes.

A surge of irritation hit him as he identified the leader of the group as Lucius Kane, son of Lord Commander Oren Kane.

Like his father, Kane had dark black skin and a long, broad nose. He was exceptionally tall and wide, with limbs the size of tree trunks. Unnaturally hypertrophied muscles bulged out of the form-fitting fabric of his t-shirt.

Kane spotted him as their groups crossed paths. “Hold up, boys,” he said, raising a hand the size of a holiday ham.

The trainees came to a sudden halt, confusion written on their faces. They were now inadvertently blocking the passage forward.

Baker scowled. “Ranger Kane, we’re in a hurry, please move-”

“Just take a second,” he said, nodding towards Cannon. He advanced through the invisible boundary separating their side of the corridor, stopping within half a foot of Cannon.

“Never seen an asshole so close before,” Cannon said.

Kane looked him up-and-down like a peculiar museum exhibit. “I just want to thank you,” he began, ignoring the insult. “For agreeing to spare us further embarrassment.”

Cannon’s brow netted in confusion.

“And I mean,” Kane continued, “It’s not like you can do much damage in the Patrol.”

Noticing Cannon’s look of surprise, he recoiled in mocked astonishment. “Oh, they didn’t tell you?” he said, chuckling.

Cannon’s eyes narrowed, feeling the ire rise inside him. “Tell me what?”

Baker stepped forward. “Come on gentlemen,” he said, forming a barrier between them with one arm. “Let’s be on our separate ways.”

Feeling his patience wearing thin, Cannon swatted Baker’s arm away like a house fly. The shocked MP shuffled backwards a step, holding both arms in the air in a “I give up” gesture.

Cannon zeroed in on Kane. “They shoehorned you into my job?” he said through gritted teeth.

Kane seemed to sense his anger with great satisfaction, a smug grin playing across his face.
“Can’t believe they didn’t tell you,” he said, shaking his head in a slow, theatric manner. “Always making their backroom deals.”

Electricity surged through him, making him stiffen with rage. “You back-stabbing piece of-”
“If only sacrificing Klein and Campbell had actually saved your girlfriend.” he interrupted.

Her image invaded his mind, piercing his angry heart with despair. For a split second, his eyes fell to the ground.

“You know, I do wonder though,” he said. “How did they know that Jinga bitch was carrying your kid?”

The slur sent a collective gasp through the crowd.

Cannon felt his face burn as rage bubbled over like a cauldron inside him.

An anxious silence fell upon the corridor. On the wall, the trainees studied them with nervous intrigue, as if watching two generals duel for control of the empire.

Cannon glanced briefly at his guards. Could they stop him from breaking Kane’s neck? Then, like treasure from the seafloor, a new idea floated to the surface. He smiled.

“It’s good the old man looks out for you,” Cannon said in a calm, controlled voice. “Did he give your sister the same attention?”

Kane’s sh*t-eating grin vanished in an instant.

“Maybe if the pig got her out of that whorehouse-” he continued.

“Don’t,” interrupted warned, his voice dangerous.

“Maybe they wouldn’t have sliced her throat open and diced her up like an onion.”

Silence in the corridor. One of the lights flickered rapidly overhead.

Kane stood rigid, his face screwed up in rage. Baker stared in stunned silence, possibly wondering if his four goons could maintain the peace.

Cannon grinned.

“Master Kane,” one of the brave trainees said into the silence. “Let’s move out, sir.”

Baker nodded, saying, “Good idea.” He turned to the other guards and jerked his head in the desired direction. The two belligerents remained inches apart in a deadlocked stare, blocking the path of three MPs.

Kane’s hand shot up in the air in a “stop” motion, bringing two of them to a sudden halt. One ignored the gesture and tried to maneuver past them. Kane seized his arm and yanked, sending him flying down the hall like a discarded doll.

“What did you say?” Kane’s black eyes bore into him with a look of sheer, undisguised hatred.

Cannon felt his adrenaline flowing. “What I said was,” he began. “If your whore sister-”

Kane’s fist shot at him like a bullet. Expecting it, he cut hard left, the missile flying an inch past his ear. Kane lurched forward with his own momentum, exposing the right side of his head. With his back foot planted, Cannon fired a rocket straight into his temple. A resounding crack was heard as he connected, and Kane slammed into the pavement with a thud.

Cannon’s heart pounded as he towered over his unconscious opponent. And stay there you traitorous piece of trash.

In that instant, his ears registered the sound of rifle safeties clicking as three muzzles were shoved in his face. The cast-aside MP was still picking himself and his gun off the floor.

“Stand down!” Baker yelled, genuine panic in his eyes. “Now!”

He took a deep breath to slow his heart as the guns were lowered back to the ground. Watching the slowly-expanding pool of crimson-red form behind Kane’s head, he felt a rush of endorphins and feel-good chemicals pour into him. An ear-to-ear smile lit up his face.

The trainees beheld him with slackened jaws and wide-eyes, like a mythical beast whose appearance shattered their very sense of reality. From experience, Cannon knew that trainees tended to idolize their instructors, and profane was the notion that any mere mortal could fell them. For Kane, the severe brain damage would be temporary, thanks to the nano-dendrites installed during Induction. The damage to his image, however, was irreparable.

As he was ushered away, Cannon felt this knowledge boost him further, sending him into a kind of manic state where it no longer mattered that was on his way to a prison cell.

Baker led the group away, peering over his shoulder repeatedly as they walked. A few minutes later, he stopped their march and turned around. “That didn’t happen.”
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Personally I think it reads better if you change your compound sentence back into simple form. That way you can lose some of the distancing.

The underground pathway had fallen into disuse and neglect since construction of the Vactrain . Heavily worn cement was scarred with asymmetric cracks and crevices. Overhead, the ancient sealed-beam lights flickered, battling ages of neglect. some given up completely and extinguished. The usual array of black painted signs on the walls were chipped and sparred. Blank squares missing their flaked off paint were taped over with hand-written equivalents.


The epithet Cannon uses seems not in form. Not funny or clever as you would expect. Nor even truly antagonising.
I would think it would be more along the lines of;
Well now look at this... who says you can't recycle dog piss into something useful.
Thought I recognised the stink of a loser.

After this you should mention Kane's reaction.

Bristling up Kane smiled icily while fury burned in his eyes.
Cannon hoped he'd take the shot.


Had got her out of that whorehouse.
Past tense isn't clear.

Nicely done overall.
 
It's hard to judge without knowing the context of this piece and the characters. Overall, well written. The conversation before the fight took too long, to my taste, a lot of talking and description, little happening..
Also,
Cannon’s eyes narrowed, feeling the ire rise inside him.
It reads as if his eyes felt it, and not him.
“Don’t,” interrupted warned, his voice dangerous.
Interrupted/warned?
 
I did generally like this, and thought you conjured up a good atmosphere and tension. The lack of context meant that I had no idea about the existing conflict between these two men, or their background, or the references to the sister, etc, so I find it hard to comment on those. However, I will say that after raising the issue of the dead baby, a sister being accused of being a whore seemed to pale in comparison.

One thing I did note is that some of your descriptions seemed a little off-key. For example:
The heavily worn cement was scarred with asymmetric cracks and crevices

This implies - to my reading - that you mean that cement is ordinarily scarred with symmetrical patterns. OVer use of an adjective IMO.

limbs the size of tree trunks

This might work in a mediaeval setting, but in a contemporary or futuristic one I would expect to see a more appropriate metaphor.

Unnaturally hypertrophied muscles

I really liked this description, though - totally in keeping, good choice of works, and a powerful image.

Baker nodded, saying, “Good idea.” He turned to the other guards and jerked his head in the desired direction. The two belligerents remained inches apart in a deadlocked stare

You may want to try and tighten your POV a little more - there's very little of Baker's experience in this scene. On first reading I actually thought this was Cannon's POV scene because there's so little of Baker in this. He speaks, he moves, but he feels very much a background figure in this, thinking and feeling very little.

EDIT: YEs, you drop into Cannon's POV later in this scene, ie: Cannon’s eyes narrowed, feeling the ire rise inside him.

Kane’s fist shot at him like a bullet. Expecting it, he cut hard left, the missile flying an inch past his ear. Kane lurched forward with his own momentum, exposing the right side of his head. With his back foot planted, Cannon fired a rocket straight into his temple.

The references to bullets, missiles, and rockets totally threw me here. IMO you're better keeping to standard punch-up terminology.

The trainees beheld him with slackened jaws and wide-eyes, like a mythical beast whose appearance shattered their very sense of reality.

Again, perhaps not the best analogy, unless perhaps Baker has seen mythical beasts. In the setting you provided, this didn't seem likely. Also, I would expect more of an emotional reaction from Baker (cf POV mention above).


So, overall, a decent piece of writing, but IMO you might want to take greater care with your descriptions and use of POV.
 
You are successful in portraying the tension and rage between the two characters. You provide convincing portraits of the two combatants, and the descriptions of the secondary characters attempting to avoid the confrontation is also effective.

A few minor points. In the second paragraph I presume that 'he' is Baker, but I am not certain. I am sure you can find a more accessible word than asymmetric, and I am also sure you can find a simpler word than hypertrophied to describe Kane.

This is an absorbing piece and the ending, "That didn't happen." is very good.

Good luck.
 
As the others said, it's fairly well written and pretty angagin throughout, though it's hard to comment fully on it as a whole because we lack context.

I think the fight reads fine, I like the shot action scenes, they some how seem more realistic, when you generally expect epic battles (but that works both ways, if I start expecting it to be a quick one punch KO, then I would hope you go the other way). My only comment on that is in tune with Brian's, the gun metaphors threw me and seems bit out of place. (I have recently watched an anime when Mech's did shot their fists as bullets and rockets so that didn't help).

As for the piece as a whole, my biggest issue is with clarity. There, for me, arent enough speech/action tags and too many 'he's. In a scene where, assuming the trainees are male, though I don't think it was mentioned, there are potentially ten+he's to choose from. It's fine in the back and forth argument, but you also mention Baker's actions and feelings (to some degree at least) so it does get a bit confusing. More speech tags or much clearer voice would solve this.

Ill quickly echo Brian's POV issue as well. It does get a bit muddied at times I think. Not that you slips don't think, just at times I'm not sure who we are seeing it from... Especially when you kind of cheat and mention that Baker was 'probably' feeling an emotion at this point.

Overall, pretty good though :)
 
As the others said, it's fairly well written and pretty angagin throughout, though it's hard to comment fully on it as a whole because we lack context.

I think the fight reads fine, I like the shot action scenes, they some how seem more realistic, when you generally expect epic battles (but that works both ways, if I start expecting it to be a quick one punch KO, then I would hope you go the other way). My only comment on that is in tune with Brian's, the gun metaphors threw me and seems bit out of place. (I have recently watched an anime when Mech's did shot their fists as bullets and rockets so that didn't help).

As for the piece as a whole, my biggest issue is with clarity. There, for me, arent enough speech/action tags and too many 'he's. In a scene where, assuming the trainees are male, though I don't think it was mentioned, there are potentially ten+he's to choose from. It's fine in the back and forth argument, but you also mention Baker's actions and feelings (to some degree at least) so it does get a bit confusing. More speech tags or much clearer voice would solve this.

Ill quickly echo Brian's POV issue as well. It does get a bit muddied at times I think. Not that you slips don't think, just at times I'm not sure who we are seeing it from... Especially when you kind of cheat and mention that Baker was 'probably' feeling an emotion at this point.

Overall, pretty good though :)
Thank you.
The "possibly feeling like" was more Cannon's internal assessment.

I went back and changed a couple things, including making it clear who is talking when and where.
 
This could be a really good scene and emotionally charged if you could just decide what your POV is. Here's what I mean.

Since construction of the Vactrain, the underground pathway had fallen into disuse and neglect. The heavily worn cement was scarred with asymmetric cracks and crevices. Overhead, several of the ancient sealed-beam lights were extinguished or flickering. The black painted signs on the walls were chipped or missing, some taped over with hand-written equivalents.

As they walked, he grew irritated at the slow pace of his shorter-legged companions. He was about to voice this complaint when he heard the sound of approaching footfalls.

“SCAR trainees,” Baker said, waving them towards the wall.
::To this point this seems to be Baker's point of view :: I say this because that's the first character named and he speaks and it all seems to make sense that it is Baker's POV.

He glanced down the corridor as a large ranger led a band of barely adult men towards them. The group was uniformly dressed in black cargo pants and dark blue shirts with the SCAR logo - a hideously fanged rat superimposed on two scythes.

A surge of irritation hit him as he identified the leader of the group as Lucius Kane, son of Lord Commander Oren Kane.

Like his father, Kane had dark black skin and a long, broad nose. He was exceptionally tall and wide, with limbs the size of tree trunks. Unnaturally hypertrophied muscles bulged out of the form-fitting fabric of his t-shirt.

Kane spotted him as their groups crossed paths. “Hold up, boys,” he said, raising a hand the size of a holiday ham.

The trainees came to a sudden halt, confusion written on their faces. They were now inadvertently blocking the passage forward.

Baker scowled. “Ranger Kane, we’re in a hurry, please move-”
::To this point this still seems to be Baker's point of view and then as we dig further the scene seems to beg for a different point of view which seems to be Cannon; but it's not that clear and then we begin the head hoping. I'm not a fan of head hoping but this hops from Cannon to Kane and if you intend on that then perhaps you should start in Cannon's POV(By helping the reader identify that it is his POV and not Bakers). Even so I'd say that you should either chose Cannon or Baker. The advantage of Cannon is you can use those close up emotions coming out of him, but that's part of what tempts you do do a Cannon/Kane hybrid because you seem to want to get the emotions of both characters.

So in the long run maybe this should be the Baker POV because that character can describe what he sees better than having the two character POV swapping back and forth emoting. Still though I think keeping it entirely in Cannon's POV could work just as well if you utilize his senses more than his anger.

“Just take a second,” he said, nodding towards Cannon. He advanced through the invisible boundary separating their side of the corridor, stopping within half a foot of Cannon.

“Never seen an asshole so close before,” Cannon said.

Kane looked him up-and-down like a peculiar museum exhibit. “I just want to thank you,” he began, ignoring the insult. “For agreeing to spare us further embarrassment.”

Cannon’s brow netted in confusion.

“And I mean,” Kane continued, “It’s not like you can do much damage in the Patrol.”
this is where it slips to Kane
Noticing Cannon’s look of surprise, he recoiled in mocked astonishment. “Oh, they didn’t tell you?” he said, chuckling.
this is where it slips to Cannon
Cannon’s eyes narrowed, feeling the ire rise inside him. “Tell me what?”
so now I'm not sure of the POV below
Baker stepped forward. “Come on gentlemen,” he said, forming a barrier between them with one arm. “Let’s be on our separate ways.”
this is where it slips to Cannon
Feeling his patience wearing thin, Cannon swatted Baker’s arm away like a house fly. The shocked MP shuffled backwards a step, holding both arms in the air in a “I give up” gesture.

Cannon zeroed in on Kane. “They shoehorned you into my job?” he said through gritted teeth.

Kane seemed to sense his anger with great satisfaction, a smug grin playing across his face.
“Can’t believe they didn’t tell you,” he said, shaking his head in a slow, theatric manner. “Always making their backroom deals.”

Electricity surged through him, making him stiffen with rage. “You back-stabbing piece of-”
“If only sacrificing Klein and Campbell had actually saved your girlfriend.” he interrupted.

Her image invaded his mind, piercing his angry heart with despair. For a split second, his eyes fell to the ground.

“You know, I do wonder though,” he said. “How did they know that Jinga bitch was carrying your kid?”

The slur sent a collective gasp through the crowd.

Cannon felt his face burn as rage bubbled over like a cauldron inside him.

An anxious silence fell upon the corridor. On the wall, the trainees studied them with nervous intrigue, as if watching two generals duel for control of the empire.

Cannon glanced briefly at his guards. Could they stop him from breaking Kane’s neck? Then, like treasure from the seafloor, a new idea floated to the surface. He smiled.

“It’s good the old man looks out for you,” Cannon said in a calm, controlled voice. “Did he give your sister the same attention?”

Kane’s sh*t-eating grin vanished in an instant.

“Maybe if the pig got her out of that whorehouse-” he continued.

“Don’t,” interrupted warned, his voice dangerous.

“Maybe they wouldn’t have sliced her throat open and diced her up like an onion.”

Silence in the corridor. One of the lights flickered rapidly overhead.

Kane stood rigid, his face screwed up in rage. Baker stared in stunned silence, possibly wondering if his four goons could maintain the peace.

Cannon grinned.

“Master Kane,” one of the brave trainees said into the silence. “Let’s move out, sir.”

Baker nodded, saying, “Good idea.” He turned to the other guards and jerked his head in the desired direction. The two belligerents remained inches apart in a deadlocked stare, blocking the path of three MPs.

Kane’s hand shot up in the air in a “stop” motion, bringing two of them to a sudden halt. One ignored the gesture and tried to maneuver past them. Kane seized his arm and yanked, sending him flying down the hall like a discarded doll.

“What did you say?” Kane’s black eyes bore into him with a look of sheer, undisguised hatred.

Cannon felt his adrenaline flowing. “What I said was,” he began. “If your whore sister-”

Kane’s fist shot at him like a bullet. Expecting it, he cut hard left, the missile flying an inch past his ear. Kane lurched forward with his own momentum, exposing the right side of his head. With his back foot planted, Cannon fired a rocket straight into his temple. A resounding crack was heard as he connected, and Kane slammed into the pavement with a thud.

Cannon’s heart pounded as he towered over his unconscious opponent. And stay there you traitorous piece of trash.

In that instant, his ears registered the sound of rifle safeties clicking as three muzzles were shoved in his face. The cast-aside MP was still picking himself and his gun off the floor.

“Stand down!” Baker yelled, genuine panic in his eyes. “Now!”

He took a deep breath to slow his heart as the guns were lowered back to the ground. Watching the slowly-expanding pool of crimson-red form behind Kane’s head, he felt a rush of endorphins and feel-good chemicals pour into him. An ear-to-ear smile lit up his face.

The trainees beheld him with slackened jaws and wide-eyes, like a mythical beast whose appearance shattered their very sense of reality. From experience, Cannon knew that trainees tended to idolize their instructors, and profane was the notion that any mere mortal could fell them. For Kane, the severe brain damage would be temporary, thanks to the nano-dendrites installed during Induction. The damage to his image, however, was irreparable.

As he was ushered away, Cannon felt this knowledge boost him further, sending him into a kind of manic state where it no longer mattered that was on his way to a prison cell.

Baker led the group away, peering over his shoulder repeatedly as they walked. A few minutes later, he stopped their march and turned around. “That didn’t happen.”
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So clearly once it is Kane's POV and afterwords; since the door is open it is left for interpretation although if the rest is Cannon then he often makes some startling assumptions that might work better by showing his interpretation of body language that might support those assumption. It's the assumptions that tend to steer my reading toward seeing head-hopping.

I think what weakens the piece is that it wanders too far from Cannon's POV and making Cannon own the POV would make this piece powerful.
 
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