Purple Rain... Oops sorry I mean Prose

I don't dislike purple prose so much, in fact I quite like a bit of colour and love when sentences and Imagery etc become so nice to read they are almost poetry.
The Third Silence in the first chapter of The Name of the Wind springs to mind when I think of the kind of really good prose that I think I like to read and want to write.

But I think someone like Rothfuss (and plenty of people will disagree with me here) has the ability to write those poetic lines and prose, without getting in the way of the simple meaning behind them.

That to me is where good multi hued prose becomes the a bit more plain purple, When the poetry and over-writing goes against the simple story that lies beneath.
 
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Of course this couldn't go without mentioning the most unjustly maligned piece of fiction.

It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents, except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies), rattling along the house-tops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled against the darkness. Through one of the obscurest quarters of London, and among haunts little loved by the gentlemen of the police, a man, evidently of the lowest orders, was wending his solitary way. He stopped twice or thrice at different shops and houses of a description correspondent with the appearance of the quartier in which they were situated, and tended inquiry for some article or another which did not seem easily to be met with. All the answers he received were couched in the negative; and as he turned from each door he muttered to himself, in no very elegant phraseology, his disappointment and discontent. At length, at one house, the landlord, a sturdy butcher, after rendering the same reply the inquirer had hitherto received, added, "But if this vill do as vell, Dummie, it is quite at your sarvice!" Pausing reflectively for a moment, Dummie responded that he thought the thing proffered might do as well; and thrusting it into his ample pocket, he strode away with as rapid a motion as the wind and the rain would allow. He soon came to a nest of low and dingy buildings, at the entrance to which, in half-effaced characters, was written "Thames Court." Halting at the most conspicuous of these buildings, an inn or alehouse, through the half-closed windows of which blazed out in ruddy comfort the beams of the hospitable hearth, he knocked hastily at the door. He was admitted by a lady of a certain age, and endowed with a comely rotundity of face and person.

"Hast got it, Dummie?" said she, quickly, as she closed the door on the guest.

Bulwer-Lytton, Baron Edward (2012-05-16). Paul Clifford - Complete (p. 9). . Kindle Edition.
When taken out of context, as it generally is, it seems over the top, but when you read the book you see that it all makes sense and moves the story forward while setting both the mood and the setting.

Also as you read on you see the narrator begin to break the fourth wall and the reader gains an understanding that perhaps the writer is setting a less than serious mood.
 
I actually enjoyed that piece, although I haven't read the book I think if it was "trimmed" down it would definitely lose some character.
 
Mmmmm...isn't this just a question of definitions @Vaz ?

To me "purple prose" is always a negative.

I've got nothing against flowery, ornate or extravagant descriptive passages if they work. If they don't, I call them purple prose and I'd lay out why I think they don't work. (So far as far as I am aware I have only levelled that charge against my own terrible writing.)

Purely subjective of course, but that's fine. One man's meat etc...
 
I guess it is VB, the article seems to lean toward purple prose being a negative when it comes to writing.

I also suppose it comes down to taste as well, some people will enjoy "purple" or flowery prose, whilst others won't.
 
Which brings us right back to Paul Clifford::


:: I've never seen anything negative about that prose; which makes me question, under that definition, why it is the one most harped upon.

Is it because it starts "It was a dark and stormy night..."? :) (Which coincidently it is, here in Edinburgh, right now)

Always gets people's hackles up
 
When i think of purple prose, I immediately think of the dialogue in V for vendetta and subsenquently mentally vomit.

But similarly with most things, if it's done right, then it works. Theres also going to be someone out there who doesn't like x y or z no matter what it is.
 
I actually think that the perceived problem was what was after::
Is it because it starts "It was a dark and stormy night..."? :) (Which coincidently it is, here in Edinburgh, right now)

Always gets people's hackles up
::It was a dark and stormy night...

The phrase 'It was a dark and stormy night' is used as a key to help people locate what is after and what someone once claimed was purple prose. Now days 'It was a dark and stormy night' evokes the response; but there is really no logical reason for that phrase to cause a negative response other than something Pavlovian.
 

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