A Talent for War by Jack McDevitt

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One of the problems of writing a book about someone investigating a momentous event that occurred in a war two hundred years previously is that it requires the reader to understand much of what happened in that earlier war. This is the problem the McDevitt faces in A Talent for War and the result is a glacial paced first half of this book. It is filled with info dumps, handled in many different ways, but still info dumps. The accounts of battles and other events in the war, even when presented through the ‘eyes’ of an interactive simulation, are ultimately flat ‘historical’ accounts. Because we never actually meet any of the characters in the war we are in no way invested in them and so have little emotional concern over the outcomes of these events. This first part – and it is at least half of the book – I found extremely difficult to get through and I confess I only persisted because I have always heard good things about McDevitt.

Fortunately the second half picked up and provided a very good well-paced ending but I’m not sure it was worth the effort of the first half. It meant that, for me, the first half was just barely two stars and the second 4 stars. A very uneven ride.

The other major problem I had was with the characterisations. I couldn’t find much to like in the main character Alex Benedict; he was weak, unexciting and seemed more interested in finding ways of backing out of the investigation rather than continuing with it. His sidekick – Chase – seemed to be a much more interesting character. She was (or at least started out) a sassy, tough, independent sort but ultimately wasn’t developed nearly as much as she could have been and, later, when things started getting dangerous, she didn’t really respond as I would have expected but rather dissolved into a bit of a scared little girl looking to Benedict to save her. Very disappointing.

Although I enjoyed the second half of A Talent for War I’m very much left wondering whether I’m sufficiently interested in the character of Alex Benedict to continue with the series of books featuring him. On the other hand I don’t think the second book was written until some 15 years later so maybe McDevitt’s writing might have matured some and also I imagine much of the back story info dumps have already been endured. Any guidance from other readers much appreciated!
 
Vertigo, I recently read The Hercules Text by McDevitt, and it was my first of his. I liked it quite a bit, and though it was a little dry at times, I enjoyed it overall. I was planning on trying more of his at some point.
 
Hmm, dry would certainly describe the first half of this one. Looking at his details it looks like The Hercules Text was his first book (1986) and A Talent for War was his second (1989) So I might yet give a later book a try.
 
From the second Alex Benedict book, the POV swaps to Chase.

I really enjoyed them, albeit the Benedict books are quite formulaic. Benedict stumbles on an artifact/message/thing which then sets them off to unravel a mystery of some kind.

I think one of his stand alone novels, Slow Lightning (also printed as Infinity Beach), is his best. I reckon it was probably originally written as a Benedict book as much of the technology seems the same, but I think he decided he wanted to make it more spooky than the more swashbuckling adventures of Chase/Alex.
 
Thanks @ralphkern, Interesting that he switches to Chase for the second book I might get the next two as I can get the first three in omnibus for the same price as each one (should have thought of that for the first one!). I was also wondering about The Engines of God. Interesting your comment on them being a little formulaic; I'm not too surprised and feel he is never likely to be more than light reading but I always have a place for some light reading!
 
I suspect he came to the same conclusion as you, Chase is a more compelling character, and Benedict is more interesting from an external POV where his eccentricities really come out. You can do a hell of a lot worse than that omnibus and I think you'll find some of your points addressed.

The formula does work and the world has a real weight of history behind it.

The Academy series is also excellent and much more varied. I remember Engines of God being relatively weak in comparison to the others (key word - relatively, its not bad by any means). Once the series gets going though...

The thing that impresses me most about the McDevitt novels is that they never, or at least rarely, rely on violence for drama and excitement... yet are still very much thrilling reads. (I think Talent for War is the most warry out of the lot of them)

That makes them very refreshing for me.

If you get on with McDevitt, but want a bit more of a hard SF thrust to it... may I suggest Peter Cawdron. Here is a post to my review of one of his works:

Quality Self-Published Work Review
 
I think I mentioned in t'other thread that I quite enjoyed Engines of God when I read it a few years ago, although it was another quite dry read, from what I can recall. I managed to find a review of it that I posted on another forum, if it helps!

Steve's Bookshelf 2012 - Page 32 - Past Book Logs
The archaeology aspect intrigued me
Funnily enough that's exactly what intrigued me (and also what got me interested in The Benedict stories too).

@ralphkern I think I will go ahead and get the omnibus sometime but it's probably not going to be on the top of my list. @Bugg the same probably goes for The Engines of God. I've just read my first Bernard Cornwell book - The Last Kingdom - and frankly that's made me stop and consider; unlike this book which leaves me wondering whether to continue, the Cornwell book left me wanting to buy the next book in the series right now. And I'm thinking that is how I should feel after reading a book within any series.
 
I've just read my first Bernard Cornwell book - The Last Kingdom - and frankly that's made me stop and consider; unlike this book which leaves me wondering whether to continue, the Cornwell book left me wanting to buy the next book in the series right now. And I'm thinking that is how I should feel after reading a book within any series.

Oh I love those books! I've enjoyed almost all of them, and the first four in particular are brilliant (especially Sword Song) :)
 
Something you may find of interest (and I am recalling some previous conversations between you and I, Vertigo) in the Academy series as opposed to the Bennedicts is often, the lead in is one of a relatively simple disaster based around a physics or math problem, which then becomes the driving force of the story. The protagonists then seek to overcome that problem which, of course, is never quite as simple as it first appears.

They are not far off the old Arthur C Clarke short stories in that regards.
 
Something you may find of interest (and I am recalling some previous conversations between you and I, Vertigo) in the Academy series as opposed to the Bennedicts is often, the lead in is one of a relatively simple disaster based around a physics or math problem, which then becomes the driving force of the story. The protagonists then seek to overcome that problem which, of course, is never quite as simple as it first appears.

They are not far off the old Arthur C Clarke short stories in that regards.

I think their various premises do sound more to my liking than the Benedict ones.... Decisions, decisions. It's particularly difficult when my to read list is already over 300 books long!
 
One of the problems of writing a book about someone investigating a momentous event that occurred in a war two hundred years previously is that it requires the reader to understand much of what happened in that earlier war. This is the problem the McDevitt faces in A Talent for War and the result is a glacial paced first half of this book. It is filled with info dumps, handled in many different ways, but still info dumps. The accounts of battles and other events in the war, even when presented through the ‘eyes’ of an interactive simulation, are ultimately flat ‘historical’ accounts. Because we never actually meet any of the characters in the war we are in no way invested in them and so have little emotional concern over the outcomes of these events. This first part – and it is at least half of the book – I found extremely difficult to get through and I confess I only persisted because I have always heard good things about McDevitt.
Very late response to a review from 2016, but I was incensed enough to respond (incentivized to respond) to a review of arguably one of my favourite novels.

Everything you found 'flat' – the historical info dumps – I found fascinating. I imagine that this was not the book you were looking for, whereas for me, it was inspirational story telling. Turning and SF into an historical investigation, which reminded me thematically of the 'Motel of the Mysteries' by David Macaulay.

Fortunately the second half picked up and provided a very good well-paced ending but I’m not sure it was worth the effort of the first half. It meant that, for me, the first half was just barely two stars and the second 4 stars. A very uneven ride
While the pace of the second half increases as our protagonist hunts down the clues, for me it delivered on the promises of the first half of the narrative. YMMV and clearly does.

The other major problem I had was with the characterisations. I couldn’t find much to like in the main character Alex Benedict; he was weak, unexciting and seemed more interested in finding ways of backing out of the investigation rather than continuing with it. His sidekick – Chase – seemed to be a much more interesting character. She was (or at least started out) a sassy, tough, independent sort but ultimately wasn’t developed nearly as much as she could have been and, later, when things started getting dangerous, she didn’t really respond as I would have expected but rather dissolved into a bit of a scared little girl looking to Benedict to save her. Very disappointing.
I liken Alex Benedict to Sherlock Holmes, and Chase is his Watson.

This isn't a story about courageous people, but one of of people investigating courageous people.

Although I enjoyed the second half of A Talent for War I’m very much left wondering whether I’m sufficiently interested in the character of Alex Benedict to continue with the series of books featuring him. On the other hand I don’t think the second book was written until some 15 years later so maybe McDevitt’s writing might have matured some and also I imagine much of the back story info dumps have already been endured. Any guidance from other readers much appreciated!
Your doubts about the characters are addressed in the rest of the series where the main POV is Chase.
 

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