X-men's Dim Future?

[Cli-Fi]

I think the X-men may have a serious problem on their hands. The franchise that launched the shared universe obsession and made comic books a hot topic all over hollywood, is having trouble getting its feet on the ground. And the reviews for X-Apocalypse seems to be foreshadowing the franchise's own demise.

'X-Men: Apocalypse' Review: It's A Franchise-Killing Disaster

Why X-Men: Apocalypse Is Generating So Little Excitement

The question Fox must ask themselves is where to take the X-men from here? So that it doesn't further dilute the story and make it become even more stale and boring.

I see a few factors that are troubling for the future of the franchise and it has nothing to do with X-Apocalypse.

1. No star power. (Namely Jackman and Stewart are getting old and no longer major characters in the films)
2. No continuity and future direction. Sure they are all together but the stories and the plots have stopped making any sense whatsoever.
3. Lack of superhero envy. At one point the x-men were cool and different, now thanks to other Marvel/DC superheroes. There is nothing really different about them.

I enjoyed the first x-men trilogy a lot more than this current crop of movies of which are complete disasters. I even think the first X-men trilogy would do the about the same dollars-wise if it was released now even among the other superhero stuff. There is a market for a good origin story.

 

[The Bluestocking]

I think Marvel needs to take back the X-Men, wait a while, then reboot the whole damn thing.

Just my two cents.

 

[Cli-Fi]

I think Marvel needs to take back the X-Men, wait a while, then reboot the whole damn thing.

Just my two cents.

That's what they should do as well, but it seems they are doing what they shouldn't be doing. They want to capitalize on the shared universe franchise now that its popular, but their shared universe is a mess a this point. Patrick Stewart had it all wrapped up nicely with the school of the gifted but even that's gone now.

 

[Caliban]

This is gonna sound weird but I don't care about continuity or this shared universe thing. As long as there's a good story with the characters we know and love brought to life by good actors then I don't care if the timeline doesn't make sense as I've seen some people complain.

I've yet to see the new one but I loved Days of Future Past and First Class. And obviously the first two are very good as well.

 

[Mass Deduction]

This thread seems to be predicated on the idea that X-Men: Apocalypse is as the early reviews suggest. Having now seen it, I actually think the early reviews are not on topic. The new film is absolutely excellent, IMO. It's a different direction for the Xavier/Magneto relationship, it's nicely not yet another rehash of Martin Luther King vs. Malcom X. I enjoyed that in the original trilogy, and enjoyed it even more in First Class and Days of Future Past, but I'm ready for something different now.


I think Deadpool shows the way for the future of the franchise. I think it's time to let the X-Men-branded films lay fallow after the one set in the '90s that they've already greenlit. Do a Gambit film (and base it on Gambit from X-Men: The Animated Series). Do an X-Force film. Explore the X-universe with more intimate films, as done successfully with Deadpool, and as Marvel did with Ant Man.


But if they keep doing X-Men films, and they're like X-Men: Apocalypse, I'd be extremely happy to see them. I think Apocalypse may pick up speed as audience buzz builds and people realize the early reviews were (IMO) unfairly critical.

 

[Hilarious Joke]

Is there enough appetite for three expanded superhero universes? I'm not even sure if there's room for two.

 

[Frost Giant]

If Marvel had been running it they would have done a way better job with the Dark Phoenix story - they would've have had X-Men in space after the M'Kraan Crystal by now. The saddest thing is that the old X-Men cartoons were better than the films in many ways, especially when it comes to Apocalypse. Beyond Good and Evil was an excellent X-Men cartoon that would've made a great film, for example.

 

[Cli-Fi]

This thread seems to be predicated on the idea that X-Men: Apocalypse is as the early reviews suggest. Having now seen it, I actually think the early reviews are not on topic. The new film is absolutely excellent, IMO. It's a different direction for the Xavier/Magneto relationship, it's nicely not yet another rehash of Martin Luther King vs. Malcom X. I enjoyed that in the original trilogy, and enjoyed it even more in First Class and Days of Future Past, but I'm ready for something different now.

While I made this thread before having seen the movie, I must disagree, now that I've seen it and agree with myself. I just thought it was boring, but maybe I just don't love any of the new cast members. They don't seem to have any chemistry and some are poorly cast. The best scene in the movie for me was Quicksilver saving everybody in the school, in fact he was my favorite character in the whole film. The beginning was pretty good but the teaser after Days of Future Past showed a lot more potential than this movie ended up having.

In fact, the the Quicksilver character and that particular Quicksilver scene has such a fun MCU/Deadpool feeling to it that a solo Quicksilver movie could save the entire X-Men franchise! Fox has to take a hint from the MCU and do this movie!!!!

 

[TAMiller]

Didn't love Apocalypse but didn't hate it either. The inconsistencies of the six X-men films and all the others side shows irk me a little. I would suggest a reboot but I did like Deadpool. I think the future will all hinge on the next Wolverine