Narkalui
Nerf Herder
Someone (I don't know who, sorry) said in another thread that George is changing stuff to make things different to the TV show and to keep us on our toes. Since the world and his wife (excepting Boaz) are convinced of R+L=J, what better way to confound our expectations than to change things so that Jon is in fact Ned' s *******?
So who is Jon's Mum?
There are a number of candidates for Jon's Mum already: there's Wylla, the girl from The Sisters and there's Ashara Dayne. Since we are already aware of Ned's extremely dutiful and honourable nature, and also due to his experience of the plight of illegitimate children thanks to Robert's shenanigans in The Vale, I think it is fair to say that Ned Stark was not the type, even back then, to give in sexual urges easily. This is one of the main reasons that no one believes Jon to be Ned's son. But for the sake of this argument, he is. So we must ask ourselves, under what circumstances would Ned give 'it' up? Of the three candidates I've listed above, for two of them Ned's only motivation would be to fill his boots. Sow his wild oats. Ned's just not that kind of bloke. No, only if he truly, passionately loved this woman would he give in to his desire. Ashara Dayne.
But how? Or more permanently, when? When he brought Dawn back to Starfall after the Tower of Joy? That's far too late. When Ned brought Jon home to Winterfell, Catalyn noticed that he was a little smaller than Robb not the best part of a year younger. So what about the Harrenhal Tourney? Too early. If that was the case Jon would surely have been born before Ned even married Catalyn; or even before Rheagar ran off with Lyanna perhaps? And if that were the case Ned and Ashara would have been wed before Brandon and Rickard were executed.
If Ashara is Jon's mother, conception must have taken place as close as possible to Robb' s conception. The best I can come up with for this is that Ned and Ashara were betrothed and that Ned was at Starfall for the wedding when news reached them of Lyanna and Rheagar's elopement. In spite of the fact that the young, and madly in love couple had already, secretly, consummated their love, Ned hurriedly leaves for home, leaving his beloved unwed but (unbeknownst to either of them) pregnant.
At the end of the war Ned returns to Starfall with Dawn only for his beloved to take her own life leaving their illegitimate son in his arms. I think if Jon was a little overdue and Robb was a little premature this could work.
There is another question here. And I do have one possible answer. The question is, who Lyanna and Rheagar's child? My answer is Danearys.
Upon receiving Dawn and Danearys, Ashara gives Jon to Eddard and quite rightly tells him, through her tears, what he can do with his apologies. She then has her family swear an Oath to report to the world that she has killed herself in grief and heartbreak before taking the infant girl to Dragonstone, arriving in the middle of a storm. (Viserys is, what, three, four years old? Young enough to believe it when he is told the child is his sister.) Ashara then takes instruction in the faith and becomes a septa before educating the boy whom she believes to be the legitimate son of Rheagar and Elia...
Thoughts?
So who is Jon's Mum?
There are a number of candidates for Jon's Mum already: there's Wylla, the girl from The Sisters and there's Ashara Dayne. Since we are already aware of Ned's extremely dutiful and honourable nature, and also due to his experience of the plight of illegitimate children thanks to Robert's shenanigans in The Vale, I think it is fair to say that Ned Stark was not the type, even back then, to give in sexual urges easily. This is one of the main reasons that no one believes Jon to be Ned's son. But for the sake of this argument, he is. So we must ask ourselves, under what circumstances would Ned give 'it' up? Of the three candidates I've listed above, for two of them Ned's only motivation would be to fill his boots. Sow his wild oats. Ned's just not that kind of bloke. No, only if he truly, passionately loved this woman would he give in to his desire. Ashara Dayne.
But how? Or more permanently, when? When he brought Dawn back to Starfall after the Tower of Joy? That's far too late. When Ned brought Jon home to Winterfell, Catalyn noticed that he was a little smaller than Robb not the best part of a year younger. So what about the Harrenhal Tourney? Too early. If that was the case Jon would surely have been born before Ned even married Catalyn; or even before Rheagar ran off with Lyanna perhaps? And if that were the case Ned and Ashara would have been wed before Brandon and Rickard were executed.
If Ashara is Jon's mother, conception must have taken place as close as possible to Robb' s conception. The best I can come up with for this is that Ned and Ashara were betrothed and that Ned was at Starfall for the wedding when news reached them of Lyanna and Rheagar's elopement. In spite of the fact that the young, and madly in love couple had already, secretly, consummated their love, Ned hurriedly leaves for home, leaving his beloved unwed but (unbeknownst to either of them) pregnant.
At the end of the war Ned returns to Starfall with Dawn only for his beloved to take her own life leaving their illegitimate son in his arms. I think if Jon was a little overdue and Robb was a little premature this could work.
There is another question here. And I do have one possible answer. The question is, who Lyanna and Rheagar's child? My answer is Danearys.
Upon receiving Dawn and Danearys, Ashara gives Jon to Eddard and quite rightly tells him, through her tears, what he can do with his apologies. She then has her family swear an Oath to report to the world that she has killed herself in grief and heartbreak before taking the infant girl to Dragonstone, arriving in the middle of a storm. (Viserys is, what, three, four years old? Young enough to believe it when he is told the child is his sister.) Ashara then takes instruction in the faith and becomes a septa before educating the boy whom she believes to be the legitimate son of Rheagar and Elia...
Thoughts?
