Han Solo Directors Fired

[Cli-Fi]

“It was a culture clash from day one,” the source said. “She didn’t even like the way they folded their socks.”

‘Star Wars’ Han Solo Spinoff: Lord & Miller Fired After Clashing With Kathleen Kennedy (EXCLUSIVE)

My Take:
Stay away from the old stuff. No more Darth Vader, DeathStar, Skywalkers or Solos. Think of new ideas.

Han Solo Movie Blows-Up in Scandal – JohnJFalco.com

 

[night_wrtr]

Ron Howard was chosen to replace them. Maybe he can salvage it, but honestly, I agree with you. Old stuff needs to be grandfathered in, and the story should go forward. Especially a character that is virtually irreplaceable. Any performance will be weighed against the original, which is a jarring point for the majority of fans. My opinion, of course.

*cough*but we need a Kenobi movie*cough*

 

[tinkerdan]

I'm not even sure I understand what point they are making::

It seems that Lucasfilms is taking a more conservative approach to Star Wars. Something I and many, many fans don’t want to see! We liked Star Wars for being forward thinking and dare I say, progressive. With new ideas, and different aliens. The new movies Han Solo included has none of this! Either filling in the holes nobody cares about or wants filling in. Or rehashing the plots of old movies while introducing other human characters that despite their good portrayals aren’t really needed in a galaxy far, far away.

:: however I get the feeling that it edges toward our not going to these movies to see the character portrayals.

When I saw the first star wars movie I'd had about 30 years of science fiction reading behind me and I honestly didn't see this forward thinking and progressive; I was a repackaging of everything I was already familiar with in the genre.

For me the movie was the characters and their story. The only thing new was the special effects were starting to edge upward into something that went beyond cardboard backdrops.
And the Jet Benny Show::
The Jet Benny Show - Wikipedia
:: managed to show us how bad it could have turned out.

And spaceballs showed up::
Spaceballs - Wikipedia
:: to remind us not to take it all too serious.

Overall:: I think if they keep the character's back-story consistent and continue with the usual advances in SE, these spinoffs should do well to great and give the franchise extended life beyond the 9 films.

One thing that I've noticed is that directors seem to be like electronic engineers.
Give them a project and they want to build everything from the bottom up because they don't want to deal with someone else old technology.

How many remakes of Batman and Superman and Spiderman can the moviegoers endure.

Sure that 's a bit unfair since we haven't really done the Han Solo thing before; but should we remake the entire franchise theme and run the risk that we create an alternate universe for the character.

 

[Cli-Fi]

I'm not even sure I understand what point they are making::

:: however I get the feeling that it edges toward our not going to these movies to see the character portrayals.

When I saw the first star wars movie I'd had about 30 years of science fiction reading behind me and I honestly didn't see this forward thinking and progressive; I was a repackaging of everything I was already familiar with in the genre.

For me the movie was the characters and their story. The only thing new was the special effects were starting to edge upward into something that went beyond cardboard backdrops.
And the Jet Benny Show::
The Jet Benny Show - Wikipedia
:: managed to show us how bad it could have turned out.

And spaceballs showed up::
Spaceballs - Wikipedia
:: to remind us not to take it all too serious.

Overall:: I think if they keep the character's back-story consistent and continue with the usual advances in SE, these spinoffs should do well to great and give the franchise extended life beyond the 9 films.

One thing that I've noticed is that directors seem to be like electronic engineers.
Give them a project and they want to build everything from the bottom up because they don't want to deal with someone else old technology.

How many remakes of Batman and Superman and Spiderman can the moviegoers endure.

Sure that 's a bit unfair since we haven't really done the Han Solo thing before; but should we remake the entire franchise theme and run the risk that we create an alternate universe for the character.

@tinkerdan That's my take on it, so I linked my blog to see what others thought. I'm 28 years old so Star Wars was my second brush with Science fiction fantasy. I saw and got into Star Trek first. I was a kid when I first saw it and it blew me away. Today, the movies just seem much more conservative than that with thiner plots and less likable characters.

 

[Parson]

I was in my 20's when I saw the first Star Wars Movie (episode 4 grrr!). I had been reading S.F. for years as well at that point. It did not have a story that I would never have expected. As @tinkerdan says.... But what really blew me away was that it was a movie which had identifiable and rootable heroes, and villains who were truly villainous. At that time all we were getting was movies with anti-heroes or movies which mocked everything I thought was admirable and wanted to be. I loved the original Star Wars and still do for that, now the following movies started getting it wrong again.

 

[reiver33]

*cough*but we need a Kenobi movie*cough*

Presumably you mean covering the period between Episode 3 and 4? Can't work, unless they come up with a real good reason for his ultra-rapid aging between the Ewan McGregor and Alec Guinness incarnations (17 years, given how old Luke is in 'A New Hope').

Just saying, that's all...

 

[Cli-Fi]

*cough*but we need a Kenobi movie*cough*

Presumably you mean covering the period between Episode 3 and 4? Can't work, unless they come up with a real good reason for his ultra-rapid aging between the Ewan McGregor and Alec Guinness incarnations (17 years, given how old Luke is in 'A New Hope').

Just saying, that's all...

Yeah I don't think a Kenobi movie would be a good idea either. All we really need from the characters of the older movies is a Yoda movie, but even that will diminish the myth of Yoda which is the whole point of him and I don't think LucasFilms will run with that idea anytime soon! There's enough material in the entire Trilogy to get away with not having any movies made about any of these characters. Just like how Rouge One wasn't really needed. I'd say get away from this whole Skywalker era and work on something even better! It's not the 70s anymore.

 

[dask]

No more disco?

 

[Stuart Suffel]

Amazing the amt of money available for old cowboy/ pirate themes.
In the wrong. 'access to money' game I is.

 

[Frost Giant]

They should have done their Boba Fett movie first. It would have been more interesting in my opinion.

 

[Brian G Turner]

I can't help but wonder if Miller & Lord were trying to break the fourth wall - ie, by having Han Solo repeatedly address the viewers - something that might follow Miller & Lord's creative direction, but absolutely isn't classic Star Wars.

 

[Cli-Fi]

I can't help but wonder if Miller & Lord were trying to break the fourth wall - ie, by having Han Solo repeatedly address the viewers - something that might follow Miller & Lord's creative direction, but absolutely isn't classic Star Wars.

Yeah that definitely is their style. Especially in the Lego Movie. This could be a disaster if some of that but not all of that is in the movie. I can easily see Han Solo doing stuff like that on camera too. EG A Ferris Bueller type. I don't know why we need an even younger version of Han Solo though. There is a story about what he did in between Episode VI and VII though.

 

[Brian G Turner]

I don't know why we need an even younger version of Han Solo though.

Indeed, I agree with the points earlier. Star Wars was original for its time - but that was forty years ago. I'd love to see it stop looking back at where it's been, and lead us somewhere new.

 

[Dave]

Indeed, I agree with the points earlier. Star Wars was original for its time - but that was forty years ago. I'd love to see it stop looking back at where it's been, and lead us somewhere new.

When I say exactly the same thing about Star Trek, I seem to be in a minority. Having said that, I did like Rogue One but I'm quite certain that you can't keep on doing that. The mine will be quickly exhausted, if it isn't already.

 

[Cli-Fi]

When I say exactly the same thing about Star Trek, I seem to be in a minority. Having said that, I did like Rogue One but I'm quite certain that you can't keep on doing that. The mine will be quickly exhausted, if it isn't already.

The difference is Star Wars is sci-fi for everybody and Star Trek is geeky and still is. I believe the star trek fans are very loyal and there will be those of us who watch it no matter what stuff they throw at us. A whole trilogy that takes place in an alternative timeline? Hell Yes!

I don't know how much Star Wars fans would like that. People will go out to see every star wars movie, but they will be harshly critical of the franchise especially if it doesn't give them what they want and keeps rehashing the old movies. For Star Trek, the only people who criticize it are the people who don't watch it.

 

[EJDeBrun]

Ron Howard is a good director. Probably one of the best, actually, and very respectful to his source materials. I would have preferred him over JJ Abrams to do Episode 7, so if he's decided to take on Han Solo, I'm expecting something pretty good. (I follow Howard's twitter and I know he's excited by the prospect.)

That being said, I don't see the point of this movie in the first place. There are such things as beating a dead horse. I know the Mouse wants to get his money's worth, but honestly feel like there are other things to explore. Alas.

 

[Boneman]

Ron Howard is a good director. Probably one of the best, actually, and very respectful to his source materials. I would have preferred him over JJ Abrams to do Episode 7, so if he's decided to take on Han Solo, I'm expecting something pretty good. (I follow Howard's twitter and I know he's excited by the prospect.)

That being said, I don't see the point of this movie in the first place. There are such things as beating a dead horse. I know the Mouse wants to get his money's worth, but honestly feel like there are other things to explore. Alas.

Disney gotta get back the $5billion they paid for the franchise. Must be almost there episode 7 and Rogue One... but if the product becomes tacky, we'll all stop watching? Or a new generation, who don't have the emotional attachment to the characters won't mind...

 

[Brian G Turner]

I say exactly the same thing about Star Trek

IMO Star Trek is a great warning of what happens when the producers spend too much time looking backward instead of forward. But I stopped repeating my position on this years ago.

 

[EJDeBrun]

Disney gotta get back the $5billion they paid for the franchise. Must be almost there episode 7 and Rogue One... but if the product becomes tacky, we'll all stop watching? Or a new generation, who don't have the emotional attachment to the characters won't mind...

That's just it. There are other ways to make that money back that isn't a spin off movie. I thought the TV series were good investments and Lord knows how much merchandising and licensing are bringing in right now.

Such a large conglomerate, I really wish they would invest in NEW things.

Anyways, I'll watch this... on demand when it's out. I doubt I'll go to the theaters for it. No Harrison Ford means No Interest for me.

 

[Rodders]

I'll go and see it.

My main worry is that Disney will overdo it. A lot of people are getting a bit sick and tired of Superhero movies now that the MCU is kinda flooding us with movies.