Ancient bipedal hominids in Europe?

Brian G Turner

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An interesting set of foot prints suggest that bipedal hominids could have been present in Europe over 5 million years ago - and even migrated into Africa:

Controversial footprints suggest we evolved in Europe not Africa

Interesting to see the resistance of the scientific periodicals in publishing this. Though what might be more interesting is further investigation of the dating. :)
 
Interesting read, Brian. You do find some good food for thought.
Interesting to see the resistance of the scientific periodicals in publishing this. Though what might be more interesting is further investigation of the dating.
Well, it's in a periodical, as it's in the New Scientist. ;-) Which, as you can tell from the article title, is more journalistic than truly scientific in nature. A little too sensational. The findings do not suggest that title at all - only show that there is geological evidence which needs further research, and may (only may!) give reason to re-evaluate some of what we know.

Where it's not getting as much traction is in academic research journals. They're much more cautious, due to a couple of poorly researched claims in the past, and often ask for more research or rewrites before publishing. It's understandable; they have to keep their reputations impeccable and, due to the generally low budgets many journals have, there is stiff competition for publication. Plus, it takes time to properly peer review findings (the animal feed research I assisted on took six months between being finished and being published).

Looking at the paper in the Proceedings of the Geologists' Association, it is the basis for more research, rather than presenting any findings. This could be convergent evolution, with the species dying out and leaving no descendants; it could be inconsistent dating (we all make mistakes); or it could be something new, giving us another window on our evolution. We already have firm evidence that modern humans descended from more than one species of hominin.
 
. The findings do not suggest that title at all - only show that there is geological evidence which needs further research, and may (only may!) give reason to re-evaluate some of what we know.

Definitely a problem when journalist are angling for a 'juicy' story for a paper.

This is doing the rounds as well at the moment - I just happened to google it in the Daily Star :rolleyes:

Bombshell Mars discovery 'could signal alien life'

This is really just 'We've found Boron on Mars' but somehow it comes with a picture of a Grey and a rush for the big conclusions. I'm not sure I'm that shocked to discover that this critical element for life on Earth is also on Mars - it is a rocky world like Earth and, well, both worlds should have been made in the same dust. But hey, if we didn't know before, we know now. Which is good :p
 
They're much more cautious, due to a couple of poorly researched claims in the past

Yeah, I seem to recall a Creationist piece claiming that footprints left in volcanic ash can be incorrectly dated to being millions of years old. Hence why I mentioned dating specifically. :)

However, we already know that humans shared space with other hominids, not least Neanderthals and Denisovans. In fact, I'm surprised no one's suggested these footprints could be a Neanderthal ancestor.

In the meantime, just referencing a couple of discussions we had previously about proto-humans:
Human origins prove even more complex
Did modern humans breed with multiple related species?
 
A lot of different possible explanations for this scenario. I wouldn't necessarily jump to their conclusion that it indicates a strain of hominids evolved in Europe. It's possible that the evolution of hominids in Africa needs to be pushed back further, and that a particular strain left Africa and migrated to Europe, whereupon they either continued to evolve into something else or go extinct. Definitely hard to gauge the particulars from one set of prints.
 

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