4.04: Fear The Walking Dead - Buried

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Naomi, Alicia and the Dead fan club (Photo by Richard Foreman Jr/AMC)

Al's questioning uncovers some surprising truths about the group's past; John Dorie receives unexpected news.

 

[REBerg]

It would appear that the showrunners no longer care if the fans know what will happen this season. They're keeping us hooked by concealing how or why things happened.
I want to know why Madison is MIA. If she's dead, I want to know how it happened. I also want to know how Naomi died, how the standoff with the Vultures was resolved and what Ennis did to earn Nick's all-consuming hatred.
Maybe the rematch with the Vultures will feature flashbacks of the first battle to fill in all the blanks.

 

[Judderman]

Excellent slide fight!

 

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Loss is hard. Losing someone who has been with you your whole life is harder. It kills moral and put you down for a good long while. Nick's death affected Fear's crew more then deaths in the mother series. It is like Nick's death has far more consequencies then Glenn's or Abraham's death at the hand of Negan's Saviors.

I think Strand was even more affected by the death then Nick's sister. Maybe he was seeing Nick as a suggessor for the Strand empire as the spark in his eye has died. You look and listen how happy he was when he was strolling through the garden centre. The porcupine zombies weren't as much troubling as thinking back in the time, when Nick was still alive. Then again Strand has always had a soft spot for the men - not that I'm suggesting he was eyeing Nick that way, but comparing him to Luciana - Nick's lover - men loses to the females on taking the mental blows.

Maybe females are better built to stand in the apocalyptic worlds then men ever will be. It's true that we men are built physically to take beatings, but at the end of the day, it's more likely that men suffer more in these conditions. Just look at Carol as an example as she gone through several hellish conditions and still she climbed on top of Rick and Morgan's mental states.

John is a good example of how fragile he got after his wife left. It is almost as he has lost the way of how to live his life, because he cannot handle the business on being alone. Morgan on the other hand cannot handle the other people, while all the females in the both series are mostly strong. I include in that lot the female population from the Oceanside.

You look at Naomi's and Alicia's journey in the waterpark and you'll see them doing it as if it's just a daily business to do scavenge hunt in the wasteland. "No big deal," Strand would say, but inside his mind it wouldn't be the same as driving the Sunset Boulevard and enjoying the life. But that is exactly what is going on at Alicia's and Naomi's minds after the water slide fight. They don't talk about the thrill and slab each others backs, instead, they get on with the business.

Maybe being responsible for being the child bearing one has something to do with it. Maybe it's my illusion and I'm thinking it all wrong.

One thing I have to mention about the library and Nick's decision on going on it is that any information is crucial for the long term survival. Books, even fiction, bear the facts and new ideas, and even if it is just the fiction that you'll brink back, you'll provide the community moral raising effects. Things that can eventually make the difference between choosing to die or living another day with the dead. In the Kirkman's world there is no escape from the latter, but if you have a good moral and not being taken down by the hard times you will live until times get better.

You will most likely the encounters against those who are depressed and desperate.

The biggest question who killed Madison? The second question, how Morgan is willing to go through another war, when the last one broke him so badly? Third what will John do with his two six shooters?

 

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One thing I have to mention about the library and Nick's decision on going on it is that any information is crucial for the long term survival. Books, even fiction, bear the facts and new ideas, and even if it is just the fiction that you'll brink back, you'll provide the community moral raising effects.

Excellent explanation for why the library shelves were empty. Nick was just late to the party.

 

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Excellent explanation for why the library shelves were empty. Nick was just late to the party.

Yeah or then it was a sing of our times as so many libraries are closing down. People get dumber or they simply cannot read, because ... reasons. Also I don't know why I wrote brink instead of bring, lol. Still feeling dull pain from the Sunday episode.

 

[REBerg]

Yeah or then it was a sing of our times as so many libraries are closing down. People get dumber or they simply cannot read, because ... reasons. Also I don't know why I wrote brink instead of bring, lol. Still feeling dull pain from the Sunday episode.

The last thing that would occur to an Internet-dependent civilization is print-based information. No wonder Nick thought of it too late -- and for the wrong reason.

 

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The last thing that would occur to an Internet-dependent civilization is print-based information. No wonder Nick thought of it too late -- and for the wrong reason.

Well, thing is if you can charge your device and it's loaded with e-books it's more valuable then a printed library. If you can include in it even a small video library and you know how to fix electronics you are golden. But, when the zombie apocalypse became critical there was no tablets. And if you can fix things you're equally as important as a doctor. Too bad Dr Evil is such a hated character in the Kirkman's world.

 

[Judderman]

I think the biggest question is not who killed Madison. But is she alive. Second one is about Daniel.

Maybe they are imprisoned? It seems odd that Alycia doesn't mention anything about her mum. Though of course it is just to keep tension in the show. On the other hand including Morgan there are three new "good" characters. So it could be 3 main cast were lost and replaced. Seems highly unlikely to lose so many unless the actors wanted to avoid the kind of decline seen on the main show.

 

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. Second one is about Daniel.

No Daniel in this season. He is swimming with the fishes.

 

[Judderman]

Apparently the actor is busy with his music. I think he will be back eventually.

 

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Apparently the actor is busy with his music. I think he will be back eventually.

Maybe. There are others who left TWD and we know nothing about what happened to them.

 

[svalbard]

One of the best episodes in the whole Walking Dead Universe. So much went on here and that reveal at the end. A bit contrived but damned good.

 

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Appearing together during a panel at Fan Fest Nashville, Kim Dickens (Madison), Colman Domingo (Strand) and Danay García (Luciana) opened up on how they felt when it was learned Dillane would be moving on.

“I think that last season we knew that Frank has been itching to do some other things,” Domingo said. “He’s a musician, he’s an artist. His family, his livelihood is in London, and he wanted to be back there.”

Calling the workload “rough,” Domingo said, “We work 16 hour days, we were away in Mexico, it requires a lot of you for six months at a time.”

“I think he felt that he exercised as much as he can with this character and he was ready to do something else. And so it started with that decision,” Domingo said.

“But then it was a stunner when we heard we was going to do episode three. But also it does resonate in the cast and the company, we’re all feeling that way not only as a company on screen, but feeling that behind the screens. The loss of someone who’s been a part of this from the very beginning.”

“Yeah, I think when we finally found out exactly when and how it was gonna happen this season, we were all pretty stunned,” said Dickens, who plays Dillane’s onscreen mother. “A few of us that were together kind of ended up at [Alicia actress Alycia Debnam-Carey’s] apartment and were kind of just quiet together.”

“I went through three shocks,” admitted García, who plays Nick’s lover Luciana. “When I got the script, when I shot it, and when I watched it. So I’m like, ‘oh my god, when is this gonna stop?’”

After finally bringing herself to watch the episode, “Good Out Here,” she was brought to tears.

“I was obviously not ready for that,” she said.

Dillane explained his decision to leave in a talk with Entertainment Weekly, saying that, to him, “the beginning of this season kind of felt like the end of an era with this show.”

“And television is hard work, and you have to shoot a lot. I also missed Europe very much,” the 27-year-old actor-slash-musician said. “I’m not American, so after a while I get quite homesick and all of those things. I also felt like we had achieved what needed to be achieved in the first few seasons, so I thought it was time to keep moving.”

‘Fear The Walking Dead’ Cast Open Up About Frank Dillane Choosing To Exit The Series

 

[nixie]

Where is Madison? Surely if she was dead someone would have said.

Poor John, a heart breaking ending too his search.

Althea, is fast becoming one of my favourite characters.

 

[Judderman]

I wonder if Madison and John's love are still at the stadium. Presumed dead but actually alive.