Collective Chronicles Reading Experience - Have We Read Everything?

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Just a bit of fun for the lounge.

While mowing the lawns, thinking idly of nothing and anything, it occurred to me that of you crossed Baylor and Danny in some sort of teleporting, combining device, much like in The Fly, you'd end up with a (handsome) creature who had read almost all science fiction books.

I then got to mulling this over in a slightly more sensible way and decided that, indeed, if you combined the readership of all the Chronicles Forum members, you'd obtain quite an impressive reading log. Have we read close to all major SF and F works? I'm not talking all short stories published, as there are way too many thousand insignificant works by forgotten authors, but let's say "books" as in collections, anthologies or novels.

I'm quite sure that between us we've read all the books of the big 3 in SF (Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke). I know I've read most, and I know there are others here who've read them all. Likewise, we known J-Sun's read most of Cherryh, and for those few he hadn't read, others doubtless fill in the gaps. Weber? Parson and tobl cover us pretty well. Moorcock - JD's your man. Vance - Connavar. Simak - Dave Wixon, of course. And so on. And we have great diversity - I've read almost no romantic fantasy, but many on here, e.g. Teresa, have read a lot. I know for a fact that there are folk here who have read all of WoT and Malazan and other epic fantasy much less popular. Is there anything we haven't collectively read?

So, in response to this thread, let's see:

(1) General discussion of whether we have read everything, and if not, what percentage have we read? (Because I'm in lock-down and it seemed like a fun hypothesis)

(2) I've set a slightly daft hypothesis up - that between us we've read everything - can you specifically challenge the hypothesis and think of a SFF book we haven't read, or identify an author who is under-read among the whole reading membership?

Okay, so the main problem with this game would be if folk just come up with an extremely obscure book by an extremely obscure author. So if the author is ludicrously obscure (e.g. no wiki page), the book doesn't count, and we're off the hook.

(3) If anyone suggests a book that we've not "collectively read" - can you prove them wrong by revealing you have actually read it?

(4) And if we agree there's a book out there we haven't read, that meets the "mustn't be far to obscure" rule - who will add it to their TBR pile? Let's add it to our collective reading experience!
 
Interesting thought. I imagine between us, we've not missed much. But probably some - I'm not sure who here reads the major female UF/PR/YA authors; and tbh, I don't think the readership here is hugely into contemporary trad fantasy.
 
As much as ive read, there a great deal more that I have not read. There are books by Heinlein, Asimov and Clarke that I have not gotten around to reading as of yet. In terms of what I read , Im more generalist, In that I try to read as many different writers s possible . I now have idea how many books snd stories ive read, I stopped counting may years ago. I also have tendency to read books and writers that are not commonly read or known about. For example . On writer ive been recommending of late is a man by the name of Staton Coblentz . Ive read only one book by Him In Cavern's Below which can be found under the title of The Hidden World (Airmont books) Ive only encountered one other person here who read this book. I suspect that most of you have never head of this writer . Coblentz was historian, a satirist and science fiction writer. He's not by any stretch one the greats and is largely forgotten but, he was a good writer and this book, written 1935 left an impression on me . It's a satire and it its become relevant again . I would put this book in the same category as 1984 , Brave New World We and Limbo and other dystopian books.
 
Well I recall Harpo posting about a book he'd obtained by this obscure SF writer, who's book hadn't even been mentioned ever in SFF Chronicles......I'd read it :giggle:

 
Interesting thought. I imagine between us, we've not missed much. But probably some - I'm not sure who here reads the major female UF/PR/YA authors; and tbh, I don't think the readership here is hugely into contemporary trad fantasy.
Okay - suggest a contemporary trad fantasy title - I bet someone comes on and says, "well, actually..." :)
 
Okay - suggest a contemporary trad fantasy title - I bet someone comes on and says, "well, actually..." :)

The following is a list of fairly big name contemporary authors where I've yet to read all their books in the fantasy genre

NK Jemisin
Rebecca Kuang
Jeanette Ng
Sarah J Maas
Cassandra Clare
Brandon Sanderson
Brent Weeks
Mark Lawrence
Joe Abercrombie
Adrian Tchaikovsky
Ed McDonald
Daniel Abraham
Sebastien de Castell
Miles Cameron
Josiah Bancroft
Sarah Shannon
Jen Williams
Anna Smith Sparks
Leigh Bardugo
Seanan McGuire

Given how much chat I see about these authors here, I'd be surprised if none of them went unticked.
 
Here's a. few more

Alph by Charles Eric Main a future world in which use to an unfortunate break though Parthenogenesis human reproduction has resulted in a future in which in there are only woman and no men, In this future world onescientist who wants bring back men back.
The Heads of Cerberus by France Stevens a dystopia novel by a neglected figure in Science fiction.
The Revolt of Angels by Anatole France A fantasy novel by the man who wrote the Reign of Terror The Gods Will Have Blood
Paris in the Twentieth Century
. by Jules Verne Never saw publication in his lifetime because his publisher that the the starting productions he made in the book were too preposterous for readers to believe . The manuscript fo the book was left in a safe until rediscovered in 1989 by one of his descendants.
The Castle in Transylvania by Jules Verne There had been a English translation of this novel in over 100 years.
Rim of the Morning Two Tales of Cosmic Horror by William Sloane
Merlin's Ring by H Warner Munn Very much and underrated fantasy novel by a water who should be far better remembered then he is.
 
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I've read The Castle in Transylvania! I've also read The Gods Are Athirst (I prefer that translation of the title), but I don't think you meant that as a candidate for the topic of this thread. I do own The Revolt of the Angels (well, in a fat hardcover containing maybe six Anatole France novels).
 
I've read The Castle in Transylvania! I've also read The Gods Are Athirst (I prefer that translation of the title), but I don't think you meant that as a candidate for the topic of this thread. I do own The Revolt of the Angels (well, in a fat hardcover containing maybe six Anatole France novels).

The Revolt of Angels is only the second novel ive ever seen by France , the other book I read by I read so in college about 35 years ago.

As to the Jules Verb novel The Castle in Transylvania. The only copy ive seen is the one I own :unsure::confused:
 
Thanks for the lists, Baylor, but the idea is to come up with books no-one on here has read - you've read all these.

So far, no one has come up with a book suggestion. I've a feeling this isn't going to work :)
 
Thanks for the lists, Baylor, but the idea is to come up with books no-one on here has read - you've read all these.

So far, no one has come up with a book suggestion. I've a feeling this isn't going to work :)

Ops sorry Bick :confused:
 
I have one I have not read yet :unsure: The Water Margin Outlaws of the Mash by Shi Naian
I have it in my collection but haven't read it.
 
The following is a list of fairly big name contemporary authors where I've yet to read all their books in the fantasy genre

NK Jemisin
Rebecca Kuang
Jeanette Ng
Sarah J Maas
Cassandra Clare
Brandon Sanderson
Brent Weeks
Mark Lawrence
Joe Abercrombie
Adrian Tchaikovsky
Ed McDonald
Daniel Abraham
Sebastien de Castell
Miles Cameron
Josiah Bancroft
Sarah Shannon
Jen Williams
Anna Smith Sparks
Leigh Bardugo
Seanan McGuire

Given how much chat I see about these authors here, I'd be surprised if none of them went unticked.
I can knock these off the list:

nk Jemisin (DNF but started)
Jeanette Ng (reading at the mo)
Cassandra Clare (came to it a little old, would have loved it a decade ago)
Sanderson (about 5 books)
Lawrence (read the Jorg books but not generally a fan - Nixie is though)
Joe Abercrombie - loads of fans here
Tchaikovsky - read his sf not fantasy yet
Ed McDonald - read book one, liked it but not enough to dig out book 2 yet but I might well do)
Bancroft - Senlin Ascends is on my TBR
Last 3 - all on the TBR. Have read some of Anna’s’
 
I have one I have not read yet :unsure: The Water Margin Outlaws of the Mash by Shi Naian
I have it in my collection but haven't read it.
Hmm, 14th century Chinese literature wasn't really what I was looking for either. Reasonably modern English language SFF was more what I had in mind. This really isn't working. Perhaps my hypothesis is right. As you were. :)
 
Let me be clearer then. I am listing every single fantasy long-form work on the bibliography of each of those novelists; it is easier than copy-pasting them all to simple name the author. I have read some of their books but there's none there where I've read all. Do I think some have been covered by the regular members of the forum? Probably, probably most of them, but I'm curious given since what I've observed, I don't think there's that many diehard up to date fantasy readers here.
 
To avoid the necessity of typing them all out, I've copy-pasted all the books mentioned in the Wikipedia article on the Ballentine Adult Fantasy series, (I've put the ones I've read into bold, in case anyone is about to propose them as among the books unread by Chronicles members, and simply list the rest in plain text to see if anyone else has read them.)

The precursors to the series:

  1. The Hobbit, J. R. R. Tolkien (August 1965)
  2. The Fellowship of the Ring, J. R. R. Tolkien (October 1965)
  3. The Two Towers, J. R. R. Tolkien (October 1965)
  4. The Return of the King, J. R. R. Tolkien (December 1965)
  5. The Tolkien Reader, J. R. R. Tolkien (September 1966)
  6. The Worm Ouroboros, E. R. Eddison (April 1967, later reprinted (5th) with colophon)
  7. Mistress of Mistresses, E. R. Eddison (August 1967)
  8. A Fish Dinner in Memison, E. R. Eddison (February 1968)
  9. The Road Goes Ever On, J. R. R. Tolkien and Donald Swann (October 1968)
  10. Titus Groan, Mervyn Peake (October 1968; later reprinted (5th) with colophon)
  11. Gormenghast, Mervyn Peake (October 1968; later reprinted (5th) with colophon)
  12. Titus Alone, Mervyn Peake (October 1968; later reprinted (4th & 5th) with colophon)
  13. A Voyage to Arcturus, David Lindsay (November 1968; later reprinted (2nd & 3rd) with colophon)
  14. The Last Unicorn, Peter S. Beagle (February 1969, with "A Ballantine Adult Fantasy" on the cover; later reprinted with colophon)
  15. A Fine and Private Place, Peter S. Beagle (February 1969, with "A Ballantine Adult Fantasy" on the cover of the first two printings)
  16. Smith of Wootton Major and Farmer Giles of Ham, J. R. R. Tolkien (March 1969)
  17. Tolkien: A Look Behind "The Lord of the Rings", Lin Carter (March 1969)
  18. The Mezentian Gate, E. R. Eddison (April 1969, with "A Ballantine Adult Fantasy" on the cover)
So I've read all the books they published before the series was officially a series.


Volumes published as part of the series, based on a listing by Lin Carter in Imaginary Worlds: the Art of Fantasy .

  1. The Blue Star, Fletcher Pratt (May 1969) (#01602)
  2. The King of Elfland's Daughter, Lord Dunsany (June 1969) (#01628)
  3. The Wood Beyond the World, William Morris (July 1969) (#01652)
  4. The Silver Stallion, James Branch Cabell (August 1969) (#01678)
  5. Lilith, George MacDonald (September 1969) (#01711)
  6. Dragons, Elves, and Heroes, Lin Carter, ed. (October 1969) (#01731)
  7. The Young Magicians, Lin Carter, ed. (October 1969) (#01730)
  8. Figures of Earth, James Branch Cabell (November 1969) (#01763)
  9. The Sorcerer's Ship, Hannes Bok (December 1969) (#01795)
  10. Land of Unreason, Fletcher Pratt and L. Sprague de Camp (January 1970) (#01814)
  11. The High Place, James Branch Cabell (February 1970) (#01855-9)
  12. Lud-in-the-Mist, Hope Mirrlees (March 1970) (#01880-X)
  13. At the Edge of the World, Lord Dunsany (March 1970) (#01879-6)
  14. Phantastes, George MacDonald (April 1970) (#01902-4)
  15. The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath, H. P. Lovecraft (May 1970) (#01923-7)
  16. Zothique, Clark Ashton Smith (June 1970) (#01938-5)
  17. The Shaving of Shagpat, George Meredith (July 1970) (#01958-X)
  18. The Island of the Mighty, Evangeline Walton (July 1970) (#01959-8)
  19. Deryni Rising, Katherine Kurtz (August 1970) (#01981-4)
  20. The Well at the World's End, Vol. 1, William Morris (August 1970) (#01982-2)
  21. The Well at the World's End, Vol. 2, William Morris (September 1970) (#02015-4)
  22. Golden Cities, Far, Lin Carter, ed. (October 1970) (#02045-6)
  23. Beyond the Golden Stair, Hannes Bok (November 1970) (#02093-6)
  24. The Broken Sword, Poul Anderson (January 1971) (#02107-X)
  25. The Boats of the "Glen Carrig", William Hope Hodgson (February 1971) (#02145-2)
  26. The Doom that Came to Sarnath and Other Stories, H. P. Lovecraft (February 1971) (#02146)
  27. Something About Eve, James Branch Cabell (March 1971) (#02067-7)
  28. Red Moon and Black Mountain, Joy Chant (March 1971) (#02178-9)
  29. Hyperborea, Clark Ashton Smith (April 1971) (#02206-8)
  30. Don Rodriguez: Chronicles of Shadow Valley, Lord Dunsany (May 1971) (#02244-0)
  31. Vathek, William Beckford (June 1971) (#02279-3)
  32. The Man Who Was Thursday, G. K. Chesterton (July 1971) (#02305-6)
  33. The Children of Llyr, Evangeline Walton (August 1971) (#02332-3)
  34. The Cream of the Jest, James Branch Cabell (September 1971) (#02364-1)
  35. New Worlds for Old, Lin Carter, ed. (September 1971) (#02365-X)
  36. The Spawn of Cthulhu, Lin Carter, ed. (October 1971) (#02394-3)
  37. Double Phoenix, Edmund Cooper and Roger Lancelyn Green (November 1971) (#02420-6)
  38. The Water of the Wondrous Isles, William Morris (November 1971) (#02421-4)
  39. Khaled, F. Marion Crawford (December 1971) (#02446-X)
  40. The World's Desire, H. Rider Haggard and Andrew Lang (January 1972) (#02467-2)
  41. Xiccarph, Clark Ashton Smith (February 1972) (#02501-6)
  42. The Lost Continent, C. J. Cutcliffe Hyne (February 1972) (#02502-4)
  43. Discoveries in Fantasy, Lin Carter, ed. (March 1972) (#02546-6)
  44. Domnei: A Comedy of Woman-Worship, James Branch Cabell (March 1972) (#02545-8)
  45. Kai Lung's Golden Hours, Ernest Bramah (April 1972) (#02574-1)
  46. Deryni Checkmate, Katherine Kurtz (May 1972) (#02598-9)
  47. Beyond the Fields We Know, Lord Dunsany (May 1972) (#02599-7)
  48. The Three Impostors, Arthur Machen (June 1972) (#02643-8)
  49. The Night Land, Vol. 1, William Hope Hodgson (July 1972) (#02669-1)
  50. The Night Land, Vol. 2, William Hope Hodgson (July 1972) (#02670-5)
  51. The Song of Rhiannon, Evangeline Walton (August 1972) (#02773-6)
  52. Great Short Novels of Adult Fantasy I, Lin Carter, ed. (September 1972) (#02789-2)
  53. Evenor, George MacDonald (November 1972) (#02874)
  54. Orlando Furioso: The Ring of Angelica, Volume 1, Ludovico Ariosto, translated by Richard Hodgens (January 1973) (#03057-5)
  55. The Charwoman's Shadow, Lord Dunsany (February 1973) (#03085-0)
  56. Great Short Novels of Adult Fantasy Volume II, Lin Carter, ed. (March 1973) (#03162-8)
  57. The Sundering Flood, William Morris (May 1973) (#03261-6)
  58. Imaginary Worlds: the Art of Fantasy, Lin Carter (June 1973) (#03309-4)
  59. Poseidonis, Clark Ashton Smith (July 1973) (#03353-1)
  60. Excalibur, Sanders Anne Laubenthal (August 1973) (#23416-2)
  61. High Deryni, Katherine Kurtz (September 1973) (#23485-5)
  62. Hrolf Kraki's Saga, Poul Anderson (October 1973) (#23562-2)
  63. The People of the Mist, H. Rider Haggard (December 1973) (#23660-2)
  64. Kai Lung Unrolls His Mat, Ernest Bramah (February 1974) (#023787-0)
  65. Over the Hills and Far Away, Lord Dunsany (April 1974) (#023886-9)
(A number of these I started but just didn't care for them enough to finish, so don't count them as books I have read. Also, where the collections of writers like Clark Ashton Smith, Dunsany, and Lovecraft are concerned, I've probably read most of the stories in other collections but not these particular volumes, so again not counted. So that leaves about three quarters of the books in the actual series that I wonder if anyone here has read.)

Two volumes published after retirement of the Unicorn's Head colophon were evidently intended for the series. The first has a Carter introduction and the second completes a set of four begun under his editorship.

  1. Merlin's Ring, H. Warner Munn (June 1974)
  2. Prince of Annwn, Evangeline Walton (November 1974)
 
Regarding books already under discussion.

As for Jeanette Ng, I read Under the Pendulum Sun, but am unaware if she has written another novel since. If she has I would like to read it, if anyone can tell me the title.

I've read Cassandra Clare's first three series, and read two book in the fourth, but sort of got fed up with her at that point.

And I've read a trilogy by N. K. Jemison, but can't remember the titles. However, going by the descriptions on her website I think it must be The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms Trilogy.

There are lots of books by authors that never get mentioned here that I myself have read and enjoyed, but since I have read them I can hardly use them to challenge the hypothesis. However, I'll suggest a few as authors I consider under-read (by Chrons members if not always the world at large): Pauline J. Alama, Michael Scott Rohan, Dahlov Ipcar, Greer Ilene Giliman, Jennifer Roberson, James P. Blaylock, Pierre Pevel.
 
@Teresa Edgerton I have read Dreamquest of Unknown Kadath, and the 2 Kai Lung books on that list.

I reckon I have read every Jack Vance novel apart from Vandals of the Void. Anyone read it?
 

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