Dave Vicks
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+ 1 SCIENCE FICTION film come out of Obscurity.
Davy, I liked that enough to remember it.I'll queue up my usual response: Edgar Pangborn.
I am not questioning anybody's choices, but I am just curious.
What criteria do you use to determine "obscurity"?
It seems to me, just for an example, and not meaning any criticism of the previous poster, that James Tiptree, Jr., is quite well-known, even outside the world of SF fans. She even has a fairly major award named after her.
I will hoist myself on my own petard by going out on a limb and adding a name to the list.
Margaret St. Clair (sometimes writing as Idris Seabright) wrote some very interesting stories and a few unusual novels.
As far as an SF film goes, I might mention the 1963 Czech movie Ikarie XB-1 (released in a dubbed and re-edited version as Voyage to the End of the Universe) which was ahead of its time.
I recognize the same problem, so just used a relative scale. As far as Tiptree, she actually doesn't have an award named after her anymore but, *ahem* otherwise, I agree with all you say and that's why I didn't list her though she'd need to be extremely well-known to not be too obscure. So you could make a strong argument that she's only some people's politically correct football now and that, while known and read by long-time fans, she's not actually read by newer fans these days in the way she ought to be. I suspect it's all just a kind of a guess based on our perceptions of other people's perceptions.I am not questioning anybody's choices, but I am just curious.
What criteria do you use to determine "obscurity"?
It seems to me, just for an example, and not meaning any criticism of the previous poster, that James Tiptree, Jr., is quite well-known, even outside the world of SF fans. She even has a fairly major award named after her.
Ronald Clark's Queen Victoria's Bomb, about an atomic weapon used in 19th-century Afghanistan, as I recall. It gets called "steampunk" but I don't see it as having the aesthetic I associate with that genre. It is quite sober rather than being some postmodern whoop-de-doo.
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I wouldn't mind seeing this filmed if it were well done, sticking closely to the book in all respects. It wouldn't interest a large audience, but it might win the love of people who usually didn't read and like the same books or movies.
Bova's dead, though, sadly, so cannot now get it?Ten authors (who may not be "obscure" and may even be well-known but are not known well enough):
1. Ben Bova
2. Norman Spinrad
I want both of these guys to be made Grand Master ASAP.
What criteria do you use to determine "obscurity"?