Favorite examples of tropes and subversions done well?

I mentioned this is another topic but it fits here.
The Tower of the Elephant defies the old-fashioned story plot where the hero encounters a monster or evil wizard or an innocent captive who he then rescues.
There's no damsel to be rescued, and the being that needs rescuing is a monster. And to free the monster, Conan has to kill him, and this leads to the destruction of the wizard.
The alien creature came to Earth and befriends this wizard and made him his apprentice--but it didn't work out. Different strokes for different folks. The wizard used it for evil and takes the alien prisoner.
And it is ironic that the alien has to turn to this superstitious uneducated savage youth in order to set things back to right. Presumably so the alien can go back to his realm and fix things by removing the wizard who he created by his cross-cultural outreach. The alien made the mistake of venturing out to another world and interfering with it. Turned out to be a bad idea. It wasn't meant to be.
I suspect Lovecraft approved of this plot.

But another thing I like about it is that you have this temporary union between this wise ancient alien creature and the barbarian youth--two completely opposite ships passing in the night. I find that there's something profound to this idea-it's a cousin to Rime of the Ancient Mariner and Moby Dick. There's a philosophical link between them through the idea of a relationship between the human and the non-human--both occupying the same universe and connected in some mortal way. I don't think one normally thinks of Conan like that, so the story for me is the one that stands out the most.

To bring up Matheson yet again--the one script that he did which feels the most traditional to me is The Devil Rides Out. In that--it is a similar outcome to the Tower of the Elephant--the evil wizard is ruined by his own magic at the end--he made a pact with a supernatural force--he fails to get the sacrifice he needed and so he himself is taken. Duc de Richleau has a line that God is responsible for the victory-I am assuming that was Dennis Wheatley's view. Matheson said he did not like adding anything to a screenplay adaptation that was his own idea--he preferred sticking to the author's own ideas (he also hated actors changing a single line of his dialogue).
It is extremely rare for a movie about Satanism to end with God intervening to save the day. Nine times out of ten, Rosemary's Baby, the Exorcist, Race with the Devil,---the Devil usually wins in the end, or at least takes some prize among the goodie characters so it isn't a total victory for good.

Nigel Kneale also did some interesting variations on the traditional too. Kneale and Matheson both did 1950s stories where it has a message "who is the real monster?"
I Am Legend has that idea, and the Abominable Snowman script by Kneale.
They also did ghost stories that came out almost at the same time--Hell House by Matheson and the Stone Tape by Kneale. Both stories involve a scientific explanation for ghosts and a male scientist who fights with a woman who is more emotionally in tune to the supernatural.
The X-Files turned that on its head--because the man is the one who is into the supernatural and the woman is the skeptic.
 
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MR James supernatural tales often defied conventions. No longer did you have to be a bad person or do bad things in order for bad things to happen to you. An enquiring mind, an insatiable curiosity, or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time could be enough.

And there was no 'fix'; you couldn't make amends for what you had done to displease the spirit. They did not forgive and they did not forget, and the protagonist was (usually) powerless to avoid their grim fate.
 
MR James supernatural tales often defied conventions. No longer did you have to be a bad person or do bad things in order for bad things to happen to you. An enquiring mind, an insatiable curiosity, or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time could be enough.

And there was no 'fix'; you couldn't make amends for what you had done to displease the spirit. They did not forgive and they did not forget, and the protagonist was (usually) powerless to avoid their grim fate.

The Grudge films fall that category, In they revile around house with angry spirts who punish anyone good or bad who enter the House and The Ring the spirit goes after anyone and everyone who sees certain tape. Also , The Final Destination films .
 
The Grudge films fall inbox that category, In they revile around house with angry spirts who punish anyone good or bad who enter the House and The Ring the spirit goes after anyone and everyone who sees certain tape. Also , The Final Destination films .


True, but James was writing in a time when bad things usually happened to bad people, and good would overcome evil. It seems to be much more common these days for the innocent to become the victims of supernatural forces.
 
True, but James was writing in a time when bad things usually happened to bad people, and good would overcome evil. It seems to be much more common these days for the innocent to become the victims of supernatural forces.

In that regard , he was ahead of his time.:)
 
I find that lack of a clear moral message very interesting, especially given James' work as a bible scholar. Even "Don't mess with this stuff or you'll die" doesn't really work as a moral in James' work, as in several stories the vengeance of the occult is directed towards completely innocent people who happen to be nearby at the time. Some of his stories, such as "The Mezzotint" and "A Warning to the Curious", are almost as bleak as Lovecraft.
 
I find that lack of a clear moral message very interesting, especially given James' work as a bible scholar. Even "Don't mess with this stuff or you'll die" doesn't really work as a moral in James' work, as in several stories the vengeance of the occult is directed towards completely innocent people who happen to be nearby at the time. Some of his stories, such as "The Mezzotint" and "A Warning to the Curious", are almost as bleak as Lovecraft.


I think that 'a warning to the curious' pretty much sums up James' message to his readers.

A Warning to the Curious is an interesting tale. It could be argued that Paxton deserves his fate, because he is warned, yet continues to seek the crown. The BBC version differs in that there is a suggestion that the man who accompanied Paxton - and has done nothing wrong - is likely to be the next victim.
 
True, but James was writing in a time when bad things usually happened to bad people, and good would overcome evil. It seems to be much more common these days for the innocent to become the victims of supernatural forces.
Maybe a revival of the Calvinist doctrine of predestination? Do story tropes mirror religious dogmas of their time?
 

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