Episode 13 - John Carpenter's The Thing! with Chad Fifer and Chris Lackey

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We see in 2023 with Chad Fifer and Chris Lackey, the hosts of the Strange Studies of Strange Stories podcast covering genre fiction. As well podcasting, they are quite the polymath duo; Chad is a filmmaker, screenwriter, and musician, and Chris is a writer of books for tabletop RPGs and co-host of other podcasts such as Rachel Watches Star Trek.

Chad and Chris's bread and butter is H.P Lovecraft - they cut their teeth on HP Podcraft, a podcast dedicated to the master of cosmic horror - and they join us today to talk about a movie that has Lovecraftian DNA running through it - John Carpenter's The Thing, the 1982 science-fiction horror masterpiece. We'll talk about the evolution of the film, from At the Mountains Of Madness to Who Goes There?; we'll cover fears of the unknown, a post-Covid reading of the film, and ponder upon alternative versions of the film starring Ernie Hudson and Christopher Walken (which almost happened!).

We also chat about the various projects Chad and Chris have on the go, including Chad's 2022 movie The Time Capsule, his music with Pitch Black Manor, and Chris's unexpected podcasting adventures with his wife Rachel.

Elsewhere @The Judge concludes her series of talks on plagiarism, we hear @mosaix's winning entry from December's 75-word writing challenge, and Elon Musk tells Mars Radio FM how his acquisition of Twitter is paving the way for his journey to the Red Planet.

Next Month
Next month's episode is TBC - I'll update the thread once confirmed.

Links
The Strange Studies Of Strange Stories Podcast
Chad's band Pitch Black Manor
Chad's movie The Colossus, adapted from Clark Ashton Smith's short story, can be viewed for free (!!) on Youtube.
His 2022 sci-fi romance movie The Time Capsule can be viewed on
Chris's other podcast, Rachel Watches Star Trek, is available on all good podcast platforms, and there are more details here.

Index
[0:00:00 - 0:41:07] - Interview Part 1
[0:41:08 - 0:43:26] - Skit 1
[0:43:27 - 0:59:25] - The Judge's Corner
[0:59:26 - 1:00:41] - 75-word challenge
[1:00:42 - 1:03:37] - Skit 2
[1:03:38 - 1:31:24] - Interview Part 2
[1:32:25 - Close] - Credits

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Hi Dan, I'm Rafe, I work down in the 'engine room' of the "Rachel Watches Star Trek" podcast and clamber up to the bridge at the end of each season to co-host the season wrap-up specials with Chris and Rachel.

Whilst Christopher B got the name mixed up with Odo from DS9, from his description I'm thinking that 'Flodo' is actually Flotter, a blue water elemental holodeck character who lived in the Forest of Forever in the Voyager episode "Once Upon a Time" (Flotter).
 

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Hi Dan, I'm Rafe, I work down in the 'engine room' of the "Rachel Watches Star Trek" podcast and clamber up to the bridge at the end of each season to co-host the season wrap-up specials with Chris and Rachel.

Whilst Christopher B got the name mixed up with Odo from DS9, from his description I'm thinking that 'Flodo' is actually Flotter, a blue water elemental holodeck character who lived in the Forest of Forever in the Voyager episode "Once Upon a Time" (Flotter).
That's quite the commitment to come and point that out for us! Thank you - I'm glad to see that there are avid Trekkers out there to help steer us in the right direction.
 
Lovely feedback, thank you, all. It’s nice to know some of our community are listening in.

Hi Dan, I'm Rafe, I work down in the 'engine room' of the "Rachel Watches Star Trek" podcast and clamber up to the bridge at the end of each season to co-host the season wrap-up specials with Chris and Rachel.

Whilst Christopher B got the name mixed up with Odo from DS9, from his description I'm thinking that 'Flodo' is actually Flotter, a blue water elemental holodeck character who lived in the Forest of Forever in the Voyager episode "Once Upon a Time" (Flotter).

Oh I feel so seen! Thank you @Rafe! I’m convinced I had conflated flotter and Odo (and perhaps Frodo?).

I just knew Chris was the Bad Cop, :)
 
Elsewhere @The Judge concludes her series of talks on plagiarism,
Anyone sighing with relief at that "concludes" will be disappointed, as you've got February's episode coming which also deals with it -- I'm frugal; I like to get as many talks out of one subject as I possibly can.

Meanwhile, if anyone wants to delve more deeply into the cases I talk about in this January episode, or just marvel at the unmitigated gall of some legal arguments, here are the links:

Hogan -v- DC Comics 1999 Hogan v. DC Comics, 48 F. Supp. 2d 298 (S.D.N.Y. 1999) this is the Dhampire/Vampire case with the characters having the same name and similar descriptions

Salinger -v- Colting 2010 https://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/arts/salingerruling.pdf this is the appeal court decision in The Catcher in the Rye case which, although it quashes the earlier injunction from the lower court, effectively affirms that there was copyright infringement

A publisher's news report gives details of the agreement between the parties in the Salinger case

Allen -v- Bloomsbury & Murray 2020 Allen v Bloomsbury Publishing Plc & Anor [2010] EWHC 2560 (Ch) (14 October 2010) the English case concerning Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire which allows the claimant's case to proceed (the judgement which required the claimant to pay money into court, thereby ending the proceedings, comes later)

Allen -v- Scholastic Inc 2011 Allen v. Scholastic Inc., 739 F. Supp. 2d 642 | Casetext Search + Citator the US case about the Goblet of Fire in which the judge throws out the claim

And a couple of witty legal discussions about the Enola Holmes case “Enola Holmes” and the Case of the Overreaching Copyright Owner and “Enola Holmes” Copyright Lawsuit Dismissed: Unsolved, Yet Resolved
 

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