Star Wars: Ahsoka

[Megafiction]

It would help if they wrote the script and checked their storyboards before they start.

 

[Dave]

Mount Slowmore Galactic Memorial

 

[Culhwch]

Appears to be getting a second season .

Any thoughts on the one ?

Meh.

 

[Culhwch]

It would help if they wrote the script and checked their storyboards before they start.

[typing] Ahsoka crosses her arms, and looks smugly at the other character in the scene.

'Right, just copy-and-paste that a thousand times, and we're on our way...'

 

[Rodders]

I really wanted to like this and i did enjoy it somewhat, but that was more out of sheer bloody mindedness on my part.

The show looked great and each was a movie quality episodes in it's look. The story wasn't strong at all and in some places i felt it to be quite silly.

I thought the acting was pretty poor, actually and I struggled with the characters. I found them to be a bit dull and i didn't like Sabine at all. I like both Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Rosario Dawson as actors, but their characters were boring and had little to no impact on the story being played out.

The lightsabre choreography was lacking. Slow and with too many telegraphed pauses to make them either good, or beleivable.

Thrawn was written as an incompetent leader, in my opinion. Too many convenient plot holes were created to make the story work.

I liked the look of Captain Enoch and the Kintsugi stormtroopers, but hated the whole zombie stormtrooper plot.

I'm interested as to what they will do after the death of Ray Stevenson.

I'll watch a second series, but my hopes aren't high and i am firmly in the camp that Disney has killed Star Wars. A shame to come to an end of 46 years of idolatry.

 

[Dave]

I liked the look of Captain Enoch and the Kintsugi stormtroopers, but hated the whole zombie stormtrooper plot.

I'm interested as to what they will do after the death of Ray Stevenson.

These are good points. I thought it started off very strong. I saw that many people online wanted to hate it, but I liked it. However, it rapidly went downhill IMHO. After the Zombie Stormtroopers it never recovered for me. Wasn't the second season going to be all about Baylan Skoll (Ray Stevenson)? Unless they recast the character I can't see where it could go next.

 

[Rodders]

There were plenty of open story points that i found interesting enough for me to return to the show.

I want to see how Thrawn is going to wreak havoc on the Galaxy. I want to know what was in all of those boxes. What is the significance to the LotR statues at the end. I'm also interested in how Ahsoka, Baylan et al will return to their home galaxy. (although i am kind of hoping they remain in this galaxy as it could open up Star Wars to a new set of stories). Is Captain Enoch a Zombie? What is beneath that fabulous mask?

 

[Culhwch]

I really wanted to like this but I think like a few people here I ended up underwhelmed by this series. I agree with you, Dave - I thought the first half-ish was intriguing. Baylan was such a great new character through the first four or so episodes, and then ... he didn't do much the rest of the way. It's almost like they had stuff planned for next season or whatever, and then they realised they had nothing for him and Shin to do on the crab people planet, so they just had them faff around for a bit.

When all was said and done, it seemed pretty clear the series was made almost exclusively for Rebels fans, with very little concession to those of us who aren't. I get by because I keep fairly up to date with characters and storylines just by general fandom osmosis and random Wookiepedia deep-dives, but when it was over my wife said to me that they never made her care about any of the characters, and I can't disagree. I don't mind them making these types of shows where they do follow on from other established media, but I think if done right there's still room to bring those fans who haven't seen the earlier material on board. I don't mind Ahsoka as a side-character, but as the lead... not so much. Sabine was just so goddamn annoying. The fake-out death, and then just making the dumbest decisions. Hera and Hera's kid, whatever. I did like Huyang, though, and I'll happily see more of him in other projects.

Edited to also add - why would Ezra come out of the stolen shuttle still wearing his disguise? Just lazy writing.

Thrawn was another disappointment. I've been fairly immersed in the original EU since the mid-nineties, and Heir to the Empire was my introduction to that - I've probably read that series a dozen times by now. So my expectations may have bee a touch high, I will admit. His stormtroopers did look cool though, I will give him that. But that whole planet, the witches, magic swords, zombies... it was all a bit too fantasy for me. I don't mind a little bit of that in my Star Wars (hello, Courtship of Princess Leia), but not that much.

I re-watched Andor very soon after Ahsoka - actually, I may have started it before the end of Ahsoka. The difference in scripting, direction and general production values between the two - and, really, Kenobi and the third season of The Mandalorian as well - is just astonishing. If we're getting multiple seasons and a movie of anything, I'd have picked that. I'm just not sure Ahsoka has the broad appeal they want and probably need to justify the expense. (Also I'm aware there's limited scope for multiple seasons and a movie in the space Andor has before ANH, but they had initially planned out five seasons so I suspect it could have been done.) I think, in the end, Filoni's forte might be cartoons mostly aimed at kids...

There were plenty of open story points that i found interesting enough for me to return to the show.

I want to see how Thrawn is going to wreak havoc on the Galaxy. I want to know what was in all of those boxes.

More troops, I suspect. Although surely not enough to really wreak havoc on the galaxy. Thrawn's a bit down on troops to do too much damage.

What is the significance to the LotR statues at the end.

Dave really likes LotR?

I'm also interested in how Ahsoka, Baylan et al will return to their home galaxy. (although i am kind of hoping they remain in this galaxy as it could open up Star Wars to a new set of stories).

Space whale express.

Is Captain Enoch a Zombie? What is beneath that fabulous mask?

Yep, and a zombie face. Maybe a Jango Fett zombie face?

 

[Culhwch]

I'll watch a second series, but my hopes aren't high and i am firmly in the camp that Disney has killed Star Wars. A shame to come to an end of 46 years of idolatry.

I meant to also say that I don't think this is the case, but I am a huge fan of what they have done with Andor and Rogue One before it, and quite liked the first two seasons of The Mandalorian, and even Kenobi and Solo. I honestly think it's going to be hit and miss, but I also think it's unrealistic to expect to like everything.

I'm still very much looking forward to Skeleton Crew and The Acolyte this year.

 

[Brian G Turner]

I watched this out of curiosity, but it's completely killed what little interest I might have had for watching Ashoka!

 

[HareBrain]

I watched this out of curiosity, but it's completely killed what little interest I might have had for watching Ashoka!

Pitch Meetings is a great time-saver!

 

[Dave]

Thanks, I've not seen Pitch Meetings before. I just watched Obi Wan Kenobi and Rebel Moon too. (I'll post the Rebel Moon version.) They are really scathing, but without the contempt of Honest Trailers.

 

[paeng]

It wasn't good, similar to Andor, but at least not as bad as Boba Fett and Obi.

Mandalorian is till the best, which isn't surprising because it followed the original movies and mined from remarkable Westerns and samurai shows.

 

[HareBrain]

They are really scathing, but without the contempt of Honest Trailers.

Closest I've ever seen him get to contempt is probably Season 8 of Game of Thrones (still one of his best IMO).

 

[ctg]

Some found that Sabine took to the Force a bit too easily, but to actor Natasha Liu Bordizzo, the character struggled with it the right amount. In a recent Entertainment Weekly interview, she pointed to how much the show has Sabine trying “again and again” with her new powers before really getting the hang of them. While her current suite of Force moves aren’t as flashy as more experienced users, those growing pains were there, and the actor enjoyed how “messy” said growth ultimately was. “It’s awesome [to me] that it was a journey,” said Bordizzo. “When the stakes are so high, she’s able to harness it in the time she needed to most.”

As part of her Force struggles, Ahsoka briefly sees Sabine work with Morgan Elsbeth’s group to jump to a new galaxy. It’s all for the sake of finally bring her friend Ezra Bridger back home, and further complicated by her conflicting feelings on previously failing to be Ahsoka’s apprentice. Bordizzo knows her character was “polarizing” to some in that first season. But in her eyes, that turmoil was needed to show how much Sabine’s changed since Rebels’ end in 2018. “It was fun to be able to come from such a dark place,” she stated. “I think the show wouldn’t have had as much of a journey without starting with [Sabine and Ahsoka’s] dynamic being so tense and needing each other, but not really wanting to need each other.”

Ahsoka's Natasha Liu Bordizzo is Glad to Be a Jedi Now

Sabine's new Jedi status wasn't without its gripes, but to her live-action actor, the Mandalorian is more than up to the task.

gizmodo.com

 

[ctg]

 

[BAYLOR]

I watched this out of curiosity, but it's completely killed what little interest I might have had for watching Ashoka!

So , were the studio executives the ones writing the scripts for this show ?