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JunkMonkey said:
I think I can hoinestly say I have never seen Barbarella refered to as Literary or High Concept before.
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Ive seen that film and wasn't terribly impressed by Jane Fonda or the movie.
 
Dave said:
That wasn't what I said. There was a full stop.
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Since you did follow the literary/high concept sentence with Barbarella, what sort of movies were you referring to? THX1138, Blade Runner, 2010, Terminator?
 
BAYLOR said:
The number of notable films he's scored is astonishing. He's truly one the greats. Even the tuff that he did for Irwin Allen for Lost in Space and Land of the Giants stands out.
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There's a video on Youtube that plays a scene with and without Williams' soundtrack. The difference is astonishing.
 
Not being much of a musician I can't add to this conversation, but I can say that for me there is no music better than Williams score of the original Star Wars movie. It is for me without peer.
 
Parson said:
Not being much of a musician I can't add to this conversation, but I can say that for me there is no music better than Williams score of the original Star Wars movie. It is for me without peer.
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The throne room medal ceremony still (almost) brings a tear to my eye. A youthful Harrison and Mark Hamill, and others like Carrie who have passed.

Music brings forth much more powerful feelings than visuals.
 
paranoid marvin said:
The throne room medal ceremony still (almost) brings a tear to my eye. A youthful Harrison and Mark Hamill, and others like Carrie who have passed.

Music brings forth much more powerful feelings than visuals.
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I hate that sequence and always did. (I first saw SW in 1977) It is SO cheesy. And fascistic - like Leni Riefenstahl had gone to work for Disney - and yes, I did think that when I was a kid. I was a precocious little brat.
 
Wookies don't accept honours and have serious concerns about the system of honours themselves. Some have felt the honor was a "mockery" or that it didn't align with their values. j/k

I never liked that scene. It was always cringe-worthy and reduced the film to a younger adult film. It seemed even more out of place when Empire came along, because, while the Death Star was gone, the Empire wasn't. Neither was the Emperor or Darth Vader, or the cruelty of the regime, and it was clear that a new Death Star could be easily rebuilt. Also, the destruction of the first Death Star involved a lot of self-sacrifices who never got any recognition.
 
JunkMonkey said:
I hate that sequence and always did. (I first saw SW in 1977) It is SO cheesy. And fascistic - like Leni Riefenstahl had gone to work for Disney - and yes, I did think that when I was a kid. I was a precocious little brat.
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Yes, the Rebel scum arevlooking awfully imperialistic aren't they? Perhaps the Emperor was right all along... But SW is a fairy tale of a young lad who comes from nothing to gain everything. He can't get the princess or the keys to the kingdom, so instead he receives recognition and acclaim.

But other than the superb Williams' score, the real reason that I like this scene is that it is the only time in the whole series where the main characters are all together, happy and unburdened. Yes, there is joy at the end of ROTJ, but it is tinged with sadness.

I think that a lot of the reason I like it more now than I ever did originally is for the actors themselves. A youthful Carrie, Mark and Harrison before the burdens of fame and fortune came upon them. Pure nostalgia for happier days for us all.
 
Pyan said:
I'd have been happier if poor old Chewbacca had got a medal as well!
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The Star Wars storybook I had in 1978 said that Chewie would get his reward later.

But I don't think it is all that weird to give the award to the captain of the ship rather than the crew.
 
Swank said:
The Star Wars storybook I had in 1978 said that Chewie would get his reward later.

But I don't think it is all that weird to give the award to the captain of the ship rather than the crew.
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I don't think that Han would have accepted a medal if Chewie had been denied one.
 
paranoid marvin said:
I don't think that Han would have accepted a medal if Chewie had been denied one.
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I don't know what Han would have done because I don't know that much about the culture of starship captains long ago and far, far away. It's a very different world from ours.
 
Pyan said:
I think he was just trying to impress Obi-Wan and Luke there. Besides which, this doesn't look much like crew behaviour...

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In the military, the person that receives the highest award for heroism for a craft is the person who was in tactical command of the craft when the decision was made to take whatever actions.

Not the person who technically owns the craft.
Not the person who was steering the craft during that act.

So it doesn't matter if Chewie is a 50% owner or acts as captain three days a week - Han would receive the highest award for making the decision to attack the Death Star because he commanded the MF at that time and it was his decision to make.

And I speak from direct experience.
 
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