Haha here's a good one

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Venom850

For the love of god. You would think they would develop there own weapons by now. Think about it SAM has built a naquada reactor and many other stuff by now. They can get (some help) from the asgar and the tokra to perfect there weapons. Once created they would be unique to earth. YOU would think they would create there own weapons. All your opinions on the subject is great

 

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padders

I only know the relationship up until the end of season 3 between sgc and asgard and tokra. It seems neither of the later are going to help earth much in the creation of weapons. The asgard don't want to give out any technology it seems "earth still to young probably" and i am not so sure that the tokra really trust us (i don't trust them anyway!).
Anyway, what new weapons do we want/need? We are not even sure what the actual aims of the SGC is against the Goa'uld. Do we want to destroy them, limit their expansion or what. The hand to hand combat weapons are pretty good so I don't know. I think we should get on building some decent star ships by geting the technology of the goa'ulds somehow but that is another question!

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carter

well all i think is that we should get is one of thoes ion canons that the tolans use!
we atles gotta get SOME mean of protecting the planet! but we'd probaly use it against our selfs as they say well to them

 

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SGPflughaupt

Everywhere they go and meet a more advanced race the reply "you are too young a race" or "you havent suff. matured yet". Man,all those years I thought Star Trek's Prime Directive was good..........I see it can really suck being on the opposite site of it

 

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padders

Yup, i wonder if we would give our weapons to an even more primitive race to defend themselves against the Goa'uld? They may well do more harm with then than good. You would think the asgard might have done a tiny winny little bit more to help us against the Goa'uld space ships but....
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MythingLink

It's something they never mention really - like in Cor-Ai when Jack tells the Bursar that they will send back people to show them how to defend themselves. I wonder what this includes? I honestly can't see them giving the Bursar a bunch of automatic weapons.
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RangerOne SG13 SOR

Hmm didnt SG-1 in the movie arm the inhabitants of Abidos with automatic weapons ?
In COTG when SG-1 return im sure they are greeted by armed locals...

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padders

That was proably for complete self interest because they needed defense. Hardly an altruistic act which is what we are basically asking for when we ask for tech from tollan, nox, asgard etc.
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MythingLink

I don't think they actually armed them. It was probably stuff that was left behind. Seems to be something SG-1 does on occassion. <G> Same as with our military when we left Vietnam - left all the armament behind.
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padders

If we are talking about the film, they did not exactly leave in a hurry so if they left anything behind it must have been on purpose. I doubt they would forget it
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sime

The Abydonian's did indeed have automatic weapons in the Movie as they did in Children of the Gods ... Probably something to do with Daniel being resident for a year.
The SGC has a seemingly large number of Zat'nik'atel's, they have Jaffa Staff weapons (Jack took one appart in The Fifth Race) They have Captured Gliders (The Serpent's Lair), they have Transphase Eradication Rods (TER's) given to them by the Tok'ra (Show And Tell). That's some of what we know about ...

...What's Toad Maybourne got?

What about Sam's ability to utilise Goa'uld technology. She killed Seth with a Haracache (sp?) then she stopped using it ... Humm

I think you are right they should have come up with their own toys by now or at least some good variants.

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MythingLink

I don't think Daniel being a resident of Abydos had anything to do with it. No one except Jack, Kawalski, and Ferretti knew he was still 'alive and well and living on Abydos'.
I just think it's one of those instances where things got left and then found by the Abydonians.

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RangerOne SG13 SOR

I doubt that Jack would just leave them after what happened to his own son and the concern he showed for the safety of the children of Abydos. They most likely left them in Daniels care for self defence should they recieve an incoming traveller thru the Stargate.
;P

 

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MythingLink

Only if you're totally unaware of the US military mind set. Leaving things behind is a proven fact concerning them. <G>
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SGPflughaupt

yea,but usually its because they are buggin out and dont have the cargo room for much in material just personnel. And when possible they spike the weapons. I remember that happing in Vietnam while growing up in SE Asia at the time.

 

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Corzafa

I like padders first answer in this discussion. I believ that the asgard wont give out any technology and the tokra still dont tust 1oo%. but Earth does not need any "home" weapons when it has some of the best alien weapons.

 

[Martouf]

Earth doesn't need any weapons, if Jack hadn't screwed up Maybourne's secret SGC place thingo then if a Goa'uld MOthership came Maybourne would have been sure to have something effective.....

 

[padders]

But is it worth pissing off all our potential allies for that?

 

[MythingLink]

Not in my mind. <G> Personally I think we have to remain as idealistic as they are for the place to survive. There has to be one bastion of morality left in the government somewhere. <BG>

Cheers,

 

[Thor_of_Othalla]

Originally posted by archiver
RangerOne SG13 SOR

I doubt that Jack would just leave them after what happened to his own son and the concern he showed for the safety of the children of Abydos. They most likely left them in Daniels care for self defence should they recieve an incoming traveller thru the Stargate.
;P

At the time when they left the weapons behind they didn`t know the Stargates went anywhere else except Abydos and Earth. The weapons were probably left to defend against anymore ships...hang on they didn`t know about the Goa`uld either. They thought Ra was the only living member of his species. If it wasn`t to protect them from an incoming wormhole and it wasn`t to protect them from any more Goa`uld landing, why in hell did they leave the weapons behind?