The Eventerise

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I don't quite get the eventerise bit? I mean when the Stargate opens up it takes all matter in front of the bubble bit and simple destroys it right? Well why did it do it in a hundred days? (Destroy the dirt and rubble)

Also what does burying the Stargate mean? Bury? Chopping it in half?

I think i have confused myself with this post.....
 
The event horizon I think is what you mean. <G> Yes they've said that anything in the way of the whoosh is destroyed like in Prisoners when the men would stand there and leave nothing but a pair of smoking boots behind. And in 100 Days it did eat into the earth that was covering it which gave Teal'c working room to dig out and was why they said that they couldn't open the Gate again after Teal'c first went through just in case he was in the way.

As for burying the Gate, well I think there might be a few inconsistencies in the show when it comes to that. [Gathering thoughts]

In New Ground they are trying Gate addresses that didn't work previously and suddenly find one that is because the people there have uncovered the Gate. In CotGs, Daniel says that he tried some of the addresses on the Abydos cartouche but they didn't work so he assumed that the Gate's were either destroyed or buried.

However we do see that even though the Gate is buried (as in 100 Days) it still activates the wormhole. And the wormhole is activated even though the iris is in place on the SGC's Gate.

In ToT the last chevron won't activate. Does this mean that the Gate was destroyed altogether or was it dumped into the ocean and buried by the rubble of the castle? If it was just dumped, then the Gate should still have worked if we take what happened in 100 Days to account. If it wouldn't activate because it was buried in water, then we have to take into account what happens in WaterGate. If it was destroyed, I have to ask myself why because the Earth Gate wasn't destroyed when Thor's ship was destroyed in Small Victories.

I'm not sure where I'm heading with this, but I do think that there is some misunderstanding and it really hasn't been cleared up or can't be because of all the different things that have been said in the episodes.

Burying the Gate obviously doesn't stop the wormhole from forming. Having a Cover Stone doesn't either because the SGC's iris is basically one of those. So why has it been indicated that burying the Gate makes is so that when you dial in to that Gate, the chevrons won't work.

Guess I'm starting to ramble so I should call it quits. <G>

Cheers,
 
The coverstone causes the Chevrons not to lock cause they can't move. Also when they bury it, the gate can still be activated as seen in 100 days.
 
We should have gone back to to the gate in the torment of tantuls then. Didn't they try to dial back and said something like "didn't work" that is wrong, it would just be in the water. They need to find a way to open the gate underwater and send some divers through. It would be worth it for what they may still find there.
 
Okay, well wouldn’t it ‘eat’ some of the coverstone away when the Stargate starts up? And in New Ground wouldn’t it have eaten away at the rock behind the Stargate? Afterall in Solitudes the bubble bit has gone out both sides of the Stargate….

The Stargate is only one way isn’t it? If it is I never knew that until I think I heard some reference in series 4.
 
When they tried to dial back to Ernest's Planet, the 7th Chevron wouldn't lock into place.

I can see a cover stone working if it were constructed in a way that would prevent the inner ring from turning, but just placing something over the top wouldn't do it because it wouldn't interfere with the inner ring. Unless what it does is keep the chevrons themselves from moving up and down locking the glyph into place.

That could have been why the Gate in 100 Days wasn't functioning because the stone that had built up around the Gate prevented the Chevrons from moving. Which could explain why burying the Gate would work if it was done in a way to keep the Chevrons anchored.

I wondered too why the rock wasn't dug out behind the Gate in 100 Days also since we've all seen the effects of the wormhole forming and moving front and back.

Cheers,
 
Ok.. after thinking about this, there is a huge security thing the SGC could do.

Have a base off planet (personally it amazed me that the SGC is actually based on earth, crazy really). When they finish a mission they go to this planet. Then at set times only the dial home to Earth. Instead of the iris the gate is actually not allowed to function by locking the inside wheel.

We know that the iris is really no protection at all, the asgard can get through it so could goa'uld if they just found out how.
 
I can think up some reasons why they might not do that and they really don't make a whole lot of sense. <G>

What if there was an emergency on the offbase world? They couldn't contact Earth until the preset time. That might cause more problems than it's worth.

Cheers,
 
Yeah, that's a good idea, but as Mything said it could cause more problem.....
Wouldn't the bubble bit eat away at the back of the Gate room?
Also what is this 'eventerise' i keep talking about?

Hey if anyone cares a few weeks ago out science teacher was talkign about the Event Horizon (Funny that is when i started paying attention)
 
The Stargate is situation far enough away from the back wall of the Gate room to avoid that. You can see it in the original movie. I'm not sure I remember if they've actually shown it do that whirlpool thing in the series.

As for what it actually means, you'll have to ask your science teacher. <G>

Cheers,
 
Event horizon is the opening to a wormhole.

Mything, not so sure. I think it would be better to have the whole base off world thinking about it. If this was "real life" i am very sure they would do this. Then they would not need a direct link to Earth at all. The risc of disease or having the base over run is just so high that a base off world would be the perfect answer.
 
Don't think I can agree with you on that one, about in RL having the base off world for a couple of reasons. <G>

1. Lack of control. If the base was off world, TPTB wouldn't have the control over it that they do now. One thing about the military and the US government, they would prefer to keep it as close as possible to them so that they are the ones in charge.

2. I honestly don't think anyone in the military or the government would be too concerned about what they might bring back - except to give it lip service. You'd be surprised at how many places here in the US they deal with deadly strains of virii, chemicals, whatever and no one seems to be putting up too big a fuss to move it to the moon. <BG>

Cheers,
 
I agree with point 1 as a problem but not point 2. Moving it to the moon is not really feasible at the moment, perhaps one day but our artifical environment technology is not good enough yet (cos not enough money invested into it).

I think you are right, the control thing from the government is the reason.
 
The Tok'Ra or even the Asgard or even the Tollan could help build a 'base' offworld (After all the Asgard and the Tollan really Owe SG-1 a bit)

Would a coverstone work better than an iris?
 
No wait, if there was a coverstone than the wormhole wouldn't open up, therefore not allowing a transmitter code to get through......
 
:)

What about the guys in "One False Step"? There huts looked pretty sturdy :)
 
Heh, or the Shavadai off Emacipatiton
(Ok i think we should stop here before it loses it's funiness :) Anyway what was this topic about?
 
Event Horizon

Originally posted by MythingLink
The event horizon I think is what you mean. <G> Yes they've said that anything in the way of the whoosh is destroyed like in Prisoners when the men would stand there and leave nothing but a pair of smoking boots behind. And in 100 Days it did eat into the earth that was covering it which gave Teal'c working room to dig out and was why they said that they couldn't open the Gate again after Teal'c first went through just in case he was in the way.

As for burying the Gate, well I think there might be a few inconsistencies in the show when it comes to that. [Gathering thoughts]

In New Ground they are trying Gate addresses that didn't work previously and suddenly find one that is because the people there have uncovered the Gate. In CotGs, Daniel says that he tried some of the addresses on the Abydos cartouche but they didn't work so he assumed that the Gate's were either destroyed or buried.

However we do see that even though the Gate is buried (as in 100 Days) it still activates the wormhole. And the wormhole is activated even though the iris is in place on the SGC's Gate.

In ToT the last chevron won't activate. Does this mean that the Gate was destroyed altogether or was it dumped into the ocean and buried by the rubble of the castle? If it was just dumped, then the Gate should still have worked if we take what happened in 100 Days to account. If it wouldn't activate because it was buried in water, then we have to take into account what happens in WaterGate. If it was destroyed, I have to ask myself why because the Earth Gate wasn't destroyed when Thor's ship was destroyed in Small Victories.
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The reason the Stargates didn`t work in ToT and all season 4 episodes before Watergate was because they were disconnected from their DHDs. The gate in Torment of Tantalus fell into the ocean and was disconnected from the DHD. Same with the Earth gate in Small Victories. Although it was used to dial out without being connected to a power source (Major Davis explained that it could retain enough power to dial out once even if it had been disconnected from a proper power source)it could not be dialled into unless it was connected to a power source.
In 100 days, the Stargate was still connected to the DHD. Although the DHD and the Stargate have no physical connection, the DHD can still act as a power source as long as both items are intact and presumably within a certain proximity to each other. That explains 100 days.


Burying the Gate obviously doesn't stop the wormhole from forming. Having a Cover Stone doesn't either because the SGC's iris is basically one of those. So why has it been indicated that burying the Gate makes is so that when you dial in to that Gate, the chevrons won't work.

If you read my post in "Here`s a good one" you`ll see that the coverstone has two purposes and ways of being used.

Purpose A, as i`ve called it, is the function of the SGC Iris, to allow a wormhole to be activated but stop anyne from coming through.

Purpose B, is to be actually inside the ring and stop the wormhole from engaging in the first place. Although I`m not sure if a coverstone of this nature has ever been used.

Purpose A is most popular, being used by the Abydonians and hinted at by several others including The Nox(although they removed this to rescue the Tollan from the hands of the NID.) and the people from The Gamekeeper and numerous others.

That`s my senseless rant done with...
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