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IGN.scifi.com reports:

Now that Janeway and Co. are almost outta here, the time has come to share our fondest memories of the Voyager crew at their finest, and...

Aw, forget that. What we really want to know about is the new, new, all-new Star Trek, already a subject of great debate. Those crazy kids over at TrekToday have managed to get their hands on what could very well be a cast breakdown sheet for the new series, and it's some interesting reading, let us just tell ya. None of it is confirmed fact just yet, though, so we're still firmly in Rumor Land.

According to the report, the new series is set on a Starship Enterprise in the 22nd century, slightly pre-TOS. Vulcans and humans are kinda-sorta getting along, and starship travel is a newfangled thing.

The captain of said ship is Jackson Archer (ooooh, dashing!), a bold sort in his early 40s who's all about exploration. "Unlike the Starfleet captains in centuries to come, he exhibits a sense of wonder and excitement, as well as a little trepidation about the strange things he will encounter," says the casting sheet. Hmmm, in other words...Prime Directive? What's that?

Archer ain't perfect, though -- he apparently has a bit of a grudge against the Vulcans, which should be interesting since his science officer, Sub-Commander T'Pau, just happens to be one of those logical creatures. Dashing human captain? Coolly logical science officer? Starting to sound familiar, isn't it?

Other characters include sarcastic chief engineer Cmdr. Charlie "Spike" Tucker, "exotic alien" Dr. Phlox (the obvious successor to the Neelix/Odo Funny-Sounding Name Mantle), well-traveled helmsman Lt. Joe Mayweather, armory officer Lt. Commander Malcolm Reed, and "feisty" communications officer Ensign Hoshi Sato. There's also a recurring villain in the mix, Silik, leader of the Suliban, "a deadly species obsessed with genetic enhancement."

Rumor is that this new series will start shooting May 8.

Overall, it sounds like a back-to-basics type o' deal -- more geared towards adventure, and the exploratory spirit that defined TOS. That's cool with us -- no overuse of holodeck adventures, fewer stuffy Starfleet types, and maybe even some Kirk-style gettin' it on. We'll see if it ends up being the shot in the arm the Trek franchise so desperately needs.
 
Hi Texane!!

Thanks :) for posting that bit of info. I read the cast breakdown at the beginnng of the week, and thought it would make an interesting post here but never got 'round to doing it.

I know nothing's been confirmed yet, and there's been a few denials, but from what I've read from various sources, most people feel that this is the genuine article!

If it's true, I do agree with you---it seems like a return to more of a TOS-type Trek.

A few of us here have already been discussing the new series and what we've heard about it (hard to keep anything ST too much of a secret, I guess) in the thread "Rick Berman Talks Series 5".

acsifi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=2477

If you're interested, please read and add your comments!

little star :)
 
Bursting of bubbles

I don't mean to be pessimistic, but this looks like remarkably well-engineered misinformation.

I have a number of reasons for saying this, mostly relating to the esteem in which I hold Rick Berman's intelligence, which isn't very low. He's a smart guy. Not stupid. This series would be a very, extremely, bad idea.

Let's see:
  • "Captain Jackson Archer. Physical. Bold personality. Intensely curious...not afraid to question orders or even disobey them if he feels in his gut that he's right..."
Who does this remind you of? Kirk? Surely not!
  • "Sub-Commander T'Pau...Science Officer...she's cautious and guarded around humans, whom she considers primitive and irrational, she's developed a grudging respect for Captain Archer. She'll become one of his most loyal and trusted crew members..."
Who does this sound like? Spock? The relationship between Spock and Kirk? I think you're beginning to catch on. Let's move along:
  • "Commander Charlie 'Spike' Tucker: Chief Engineer. Early 30s. A Southerner who enjoys using his "country" persona to disarm people. He has an offbeat, often sarcastic sense of humor..."
Okay, so switch "Chief Engineer" with "Chief Medical Officer" and you've effectively got McCoy...
  • "Ensign Hoshi Sato: Comm Officer. Japanese. Mid to late 20s. Striking and intelligent...She's in charge of communications on Enterprise, but she also serves as ship's Translator..."
Sound a bit like Uhura? I thought so.

Okay, so some of the characters look unique:
  • Doctor Phlox looks original
  • Lieutenant Joe Mayweather, while not exactly a copy, has certain Suluish attributes.
  • Lt. Commander Malcolm Reed -- nothing equivalent in the Original Series.
But mostly, this looks like a modified version of the Original Series. In fact, being the cynical nerd that I am, I would postulate that this is a nice hoax dreamed up by someone who knew that anyone with half a brain would be remarkably suspicious of its similarities with TOS, and treat it accordingly. More evidence:

  • Rick Berman has not confirmed this rumour. This is not exactly proof against, but additionally, everything that he has currently said about STX indicates that it will be set either directly, or a short time after, Voyager.
  • every ST fan I have spoken with agrees that a series set in the past would limit Star Trek X a huge amount, and would be tactical suicide on the part of the writers. As a writer, I agree.
  • all the ST fans I have spoken with also agree that situating STX in the past would make it immensely boring, because it would be featuring old, unattractive ships and technology, a small area of space, and mostly races we have seen before, without some of the cooler ones that are only met later.
  • in the same vein, people want to see new technology and ships, and the Delta Quadrant would seem like an excellent place to explore, allowing some guest appearances from the Voyager cast (as "consultants") and some nice new ST injokes.
  • if STX is set in the past it will open up a huge number of potential plot holes, discontinuity problems and nits. Even the fact that it's set on a Spaceship Enterprise could be a potential problem, since we have heard nothing about this ship. It should be famous.
That's my 2c worth. Personally, as you can see, I think this is rubbish. I may be proven wrong, in which case I will gladly eat my words. But I suspect I will be proven right, and I hope so. I don't think a series in the past would be nearly as cool as one in the future.

The article on TrekToday can be found here, so don't be a sheep and just believe what you're told. Check it out and make up your own mind. To my nerdish mind, this info doesn't look remarkably genuine -- the flasher the site, the more useless the content.
 
Re: The_Brainz

You may be right but...
first of all, I think you meant ST5, not STX. We're talking about the series, not the movie.

Yes, the characters the report describes sound remarkably like those of TOS, but so what? We've seen several of Gene Roddenberry's ideas recycled. It's not an impossibility.

Even if the series is set pre-TOS, some CREATIVE writing could still be used to introduce new technology, etc., as discussed in the "Rick Berman Talks Series 5" thread.

I don't think the rumor is necessarily false just because it hasn't been confirmed by Rick Berman or some other Trek honcho.

I think there exists a possibility that list is not genuine, but I don't think Texane's purpose of posting it was to encourage us to be sheep, blindly believing anything we read. Maybe she thought that we'd be interested in the item, since this is a Star Trek forum. I'm certainly interested in the topic and I appreciate someone taking the time to post information here for discussion. Also, I don't think there is anything wrong with the Trek Today site. I generally find it interesting and informative. I sincerely don't remember any instances of intentional misinformation on their part. They are mentioning that the news item is unconfirmed at this time.

little star :)
 
Well if its is a con then shame on the person who put it up...LOL No realy it does sound like a good plot / crew... i for one will be waiting holding my breath for the people at Paramount / star trek to finally deliver the new series to us...

I have a feeling they wont do that until closer to the time Voyager is about to end... keep us waiting but give us something to look forward to??
 
just a quicky... i take it i am a junior member as i am pretty new to this forum.. sounds really sad though doen't it...
 
TO NEO

:) LOL We were all junior members at one time (not too long ago, for me). Keep discussing topics that interest you and the # of posts will pile up in no time!

It doesn't really matteras long as you're enjoying yourself!

Have fun!

little star :)
 
I was in no way implying that TrekToday was deliberately planting misinformation, or that Texane was not posting in good faith. Far from it. I was referring to myself with the "don't be sheep" comment, saying you should not just take my small word on the article, but check it out for yourselves and make up your own minds. As you have, which is good. Naturally, this whole argument will be negated when ST5, STx or whatever else you want to call it, comes out. ST5 sounds like Star Trek Five (as in, The Final Frontier) as much as STX sounds like Star Trek Ten (which hasn't even come out yet if memory serves). The x should have been small, I admit -- that was an oversight. I used it to denote a variable.
 
Well i know what i am like... i check out all and everything when it comes to trek.. Sad i know.. But it really does interest me.. I seriously hated the gap between DS9 and Voyager.. it seemed like an eternity waiting for voyager to start.....
 
Subcommander T'Pau? Didn't she have a hit single with "China in your hand" ?? ;) :D

But seriously, I take it this is set pre-Federation, and most likeyl we'll get to see 1st Contact with the Romulans and Klingons, so that could be interesting...

It must be pre-federation, as Spock was teh 1st Vulcan to go to StarFleet academy, right...

Also I guess that means no bright multicoloured uniforms ;)
 
Yes .. no flash uniforms or Ships..... I do hope it will explain alot of the history about the birth of the federation .... Who knows.. we shall just have to wait and see...

What would people like Series Five to be ??
 
Yeah, but it would mean we would get to see the look on the Vulcans' faces when they meet humans for the first time! That should be worth a season or two! :)
 
Rumors have been floating all out and about, but now an anonymous visitor is reporting some interesting details that could possibly be the new Star Trek series.

The source would not reveal where this information was obtained, and of course, none of it has been confirmed by Paramount or corroborated through regular SyFy World sources, so please treat this rumor as you would any other.

According to the source, the reports of the name of the new starship is correct. It will be called the Enterprise, however, it won't take place in the past like has been circulating around the net for more than two weeks. In fact, it will be taking place after the current Trek series ... about 100 years after those series.

The starship was named the Enterprise because, according to the report, Paramount officials would not green-light any series proposal that did not take place on the ship, which seems to virtually guarantee success with series like TNG and TOS.

John Eaves, who co-designed the Enterprise-E, is creating a ship that is without the traditional nacelles. It will, however, have engines, and will look similar to that seen on DS9's Defiant and Voyager's Relativity. (This seems to confirm my prediction based on the previous report of the ship not having nacelles that the new ship either would be designed like the Defiant or that in the future timeline Starfleet Engineering may have come up with a new advance in technology of not having the standard nacelles that we have come to expect.)

The source also commented on the rumored character list that has been floating around the net saying that the descriptions themselves are basically correect, but the names are wrong. However, some of the ranks are correct. The "Sub-Commander T'Pau" character will not be Vulcan or even named T'Pau ... it is in fact a Romulan officer aboard the ship.

Finally, the source believes that the series will begin filming in April to early May to prepare for a fall 2001 release.
 
Now that sounds more like it! Damn, I'm just thinking how I'd design this new Enterprise, be it rumour or not. The idea is very appealing to a graphic artist like me...oohh, I really, really hope this is the real thing -- it really will be cool.
 
Well i am hoping to that this is the way it is heading....
 
Can I have my 2 cents worth?

I just want to add something to this heated discussion.

(These rumour things really get people going! Just read the thread in the Stargate Forum about whether Michael Shanks or an imposter said what.)

I cannot say if there is any truth in the Trek Today stuff, but because of the 'Writers strike' they are under pressure to move quickly, the 8th May seems about right. There is so much interest, and therefore money to be made, that sooner or later, someone will leak something. But thanks for posting the stuff anyway, true or not.

Neo - you are only a Junior member because you haven't posted as much as others, you are just as entitled to your own views as anyone else! You very well may know more, or have a more valualble contribution to make than someone with more posts.
When I first started here, several senior members said how no one should flame any one else here, and so far I haven't seen it happen, but there's nothing wrong with having a passion for a subject. If we want more members, so we can have even better discussions, we need that to continue.
My advice to you is to post more and become a senior member!

T'Pau was the leader of Vulcan, who was to perform Spock's marriage ceremony. That is where the rock group took the name from. If they are re-using names it sheds even more doubt on the report. Also, it is female Vulcans who tend to be T'something, the male ones are usually S...k's- Spock, Sybok, Sarek. Tuvok is an exception.

Anyway, that was more than 2 cents.
 
Hi Texane!

Originally posted by Texane
Yeah, but it would mean we would get to see the look on the Vulcans' faces when they meet humans for the first time! That should be worth a season or two! :)
Click to expand...

We got to see a glimpse in First Contact. A lot could be done with the beginning of human/Vulcan interaction, in terms of storylines!

Gotta love those Vulcans!

lttle star :)
 
Hey Everyone!

Please check out the lnk david676 took the time to post. It's very interesting. Plus check other thread for more discussion on this topic!

little star :)
 
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