Red Dwarf: The Movie.

thanx for the info Dave.



and i am not too sensitive.......anymore.;)
 
:) Hi everyone~

I gots a question! I don't remember if I read it here or elsewhere but I've heard the rumour that the Red Dwarf movie may be different here in the States from the U.K. version. Does anyone know if this is true?

I hope not. I like "pure" Dwarf, and don't feel they need to change it (or dumb it down) for us U.S. fans. I've read that the Harry Potter books are different here, and that bums me out. Feel like I am missing out on something if they alter the original. :(

We're not all a bunch of stupid gits over here, after all. ;) :p :alienooh:


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I have read something about this... but it wasn't on ASciFi and I can't remember where, so sorry! There is very little info on this anyway, but the Doug Naylor Red Dwarf website that I posted in this thread earlier seems to be the best.

I don't know about the USA getting dumbed down versions, usually it's the other way around -- our UK censorship is harsher so they cut out great chunks of film when they show it here, in order to meet the certificates. Usually, it is put back in when they show it on TV or release it on video, which is crazy, because any five year old can get access to those, but he wouldn't be allowed into a cinema:( :( :(
 
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I didn't know our stuff was censored before you got it. Silliness! Especially if, as you say, it is uncensored in the easier to access forms.

I was thinking more that U.K. stuff is "translated" ;) into U.S. "english" so more people would understand the jokes, etc. I think that is supposed to be the theory and "logic." (Of course I would agree with Spock on that one! Most illogical!) That's why there was almost a U.S. version of Red Dwarf. (So glad that didn't make it. Whew!)

I think that's what happened with Harry Potter, too. They changed some slang and idiomatic expressions. I understand the reasoning, but still don't approve. I don't want to lose the original flavor, and stuff often gets lost in the translation. I prefer the glossary in the back way, myself. That way I get the original meaning and get to learn new vocabulary, too! :D Of course I love words, language, vocabulary, etc, so I may be in the minority on this one. :freak4: :star:


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I doubt that you would be in a minority if everyone realised that was what happened.

You reminded me about the story of the pilot episode of 'Star Trek'. The TV executives thought that it was 'too celebral' for the audience. What they really meant was that they themselves didn't understand it.

I think that it is usually just the gratuitous sex and violence that the UK censors cut out, and I may be getting old, but new films do seem to have more of that in them. The only thing is that often some of it is essential to the plot and the film can be dis-jointed without it.
 
i hate it when they censor films etc. i remember watching Alein on BBC once and they cut huge parts out of that.
 
its like when you are listening to a song singing along like you do and then they cut it out so it messes it up
 
All the various rumours from 'Corona Coming Attractions'

Red Dwarf: The Movie
Genre: Comedy/Science Fiction.

Studio: Unknown.
Production Company: Unknown.

Project Phase: Greenlighted.

Who's In It: Craig Charles (Lister); Chris Barrie (Rimmer); Danny John-Jules (Cat); Robert Llewellyn (Kryten); Chloë Annett (Kristine Kochanski); Mac McDonald (Captain Hollister).

Who's Making It: Ed Bye,Doug Naylor (Directors); Rob Grant, Doug Naylor (Screenwriters); Patricia Carr (Co-Producer); Mark Wybourn (Editor); Allan Cameron (Production Designer); Howard Burden (Costume Designer); Andrea Finch (Makeup Supervisor); based upon the BBC television series Red Dwarf.

Premise: Three million years in the future, the crew of the mining vessel Red Dwarf make their way back to Earth. The thing is, nobody has warned Earth about it.

Release Date: Christmas 2002.

Comments: None.

Rumors: Unknown.

September 20, 1996... "Howdy!. Just picked this up in the Red Dwarf News Group:

Without giving too much away as spoilers, Robert Llewellyn was in Oxford last night, reading from his new book, which is set in Oxford, and answering questions [from the audience.]

Without even being asked the question, though, he said that there was a new series of Red Dwarf that had just been filmed, to be shown in January, of eight episodes, with Chris Barrie in half of them, and a new character.

He was really enthuasiastic about it as well; I mean REALLY enthuasiatic. Not just in the sense that it was his job to be. He said it's going to be a classic Dwarf series. Not necessarily the funniest, but extremely well made and written and produced.

The eighth series has also been commisioned, also to be of eight episodes, supposedly with Chris Barrie in all of them.

This will mean that they then have 52 episodes, which they are going to sell to FOX in the USA. This will give them lots of money which they are going to use to make TWO Red Dwarf feature films. These will have the original casts, phenomenal (by RD standards) budgets, and real proper American actors as the baddies, who will, therefore, get killed.

Does this mean that Red Dwarf is going to become like Star Trek? Can we expect Red Dwarf:- The Next Posse?" Wow. Red Dwarf: The Movie? With the Mr. Bean movie in production, it certainly is possible. [Project announcement and scoop information submitted by 'GASoLENE'.]

October 13, 1996... As this scooper points out, there are currently 36 Red Dwarf episodes. 8 more wouldn't equal 52 but 44 - which doesn't merit regular syndication packaging. "Plus, what with the recent failure of the Doctor Who movie, one would think that Fox would shy off from British sci-fi for a bit," the scooper comments. [Scoop reported by 'roscoe'.]

November 16, 1996... Actually, there are 52 episodes of the Red Dwarf television series if you count the two new comissioned series - instant syndication! Thankfully, about 300 'Dwarfies' out there sent in mail to correct Roscoe's scoop. [Thanks goes out to numerous scoopers - you know who you are!]

June - July, 1997... Craig Charles (Lister) and Robert Llewellyn (Kryten) appeared on the Seattle, San Jose and San Francisco PBS stations as part of a Red Dwarf marathon/money drive. During their appearances, they were continually asked about the development of the proposed feature film. Both said that plans are still afoot for a movie with "big American stars" as supporting characters ("to get blown up", they said) to be started after the eighth season in 1999. The script is being written, and if it's well-received they'd like to do a movie once a year. Already the money for the Red Dwarf feature is being lined up. However, they are going to test out some of the comedic material with live audiences during a stage tour sometime in the next year; the gags that worked would be put into the movie, and the ones that bombed would be dropped. [Scoops sent in by 'gojira95', 'n9644411', '94221214dab', 'TigerLor', 'mmcalees', 'brynph', 'dburrell', 'rwalter', 'bdecker', 'Vertigo', 'Boneyard0', 'Mbosn', 'CKL' and 'bstage'.]

Doug Naylor, the driving force behind Red Dwarf, has said that the addition of Chloe Annette as new regular Kristine Kochanski was also to add a female dynamic to the feature film, which may follow Red Dwarf VIII. [Sent in by 'theo'.]

August 4, 1997... Craig Charles stated in an interview that the feature film would be directed by Ed Bye, who directed most (or all) episodes of the TV series. "My cynical opinion is this will go the way of the Absolutely Fabulous film," the scooper who reported this to us commented. "Funding falls through because the film will be staying so close to the obscure (in the states) TV series, then the film turns up as a TV special on the BBC at some point." [Sent in by Mike Gambit.]

August 19, 1997... British screenwriter Ross Tregaskis read in the UK magazine Cult TV that the proposed Red Dwarf film has been greenlighted for a January 1998 start. The budget has been set at £20 million (that's about $28 mil or so US buckarooskis), and veteran Dwarf director Ed Bye will also helm the big screen outing. [Sent in by Ross Tregaskis.]

May 18, 2000... "ssmith" sent us the following: "I received a fan letter from Robert Llewellyn who plays Kryten in the TV series. Currently Rob Grant and Doug Naylor are putting the finishing touches on the Script for Red Dwarf, The Movie. The movie is to be shot and released in 2001. All the series cast have agreed to do the movie and even non-fans of the series will be able to follow the movie. (Much like X-Files did.)" [Thanks to "ssmith"]

And if you wander over to the official website, they mention that the first of a series of films will be released in 2001. [The Q is talking to me. The Q is talking to me.]

And finally, "On Saturday night's (13th May) Whatever You Want on channel BBC1, one of the challenges for two contestants was to win a speaking role on the new Red Dwarf film. The man won and was given the role in the film. He also won an original series model of Star Bug, one of only 3 in the world. The presenter Gaby Roslin said the film was schedualed to start filming in August of this year." [Thanks to "owls8manu".]

July 6, 2000... According to SmegWeb and Red Dwarf World, production dates have been announced--being of an eight week period from January to February of 2001. Likely release date? October of 2001, so they say. We shall see. [Originally appeared in SmegWeb, Red Dwarf World; scooped by Tony.]

August 27, 2000... Dark Horizons is reporting that Bye has definitely signed on to sit in the chair for this flick, with a production start date in May of next year. They're currently shooting for a release around Easter of 2002. [Originally appeared in Dark Horizons.]

September 28, 2000... Craig Charles, AKA Dave Lister of the mining ship Red Dwarf drops a few casting bombs over at IGN FilmForce. As of late, rumors have been surfacing that reveal pop-music queen Madonna and martial arts star Jackie Chan will be appearing in this feature film version of the popular British television series. Charles was recently quoted by World Entertainment News as saying...

"It's all sorted out, we can't wait to go and do it. It's taken a while because we had to wait for it to become a global hit...We've got a lot of American stars in it because we want to make it a hit, and to be honest it's something we always wanted and some of our celebrity fans have spoken about...

"Jackie Chan's in, he's coming in to bash us up! He'll only do a couple of scenes, but it'll be a giggle. There are others, but I'm sworn to secrecy, they are big names."

For more on Madonna's Red Dwarf status and the full story, check out the gang at Film Force. [Appeared at IGN FilmForce; reported by Reg.]

Another of our scoopers caught a news blurb about the movie on the Channel 4 Teletext. Filming gets underway in May at Shepperdon Studios with a rumored budget of £40 million. Madonna, a known fan of the TV series, is rumored to have a cameo. [Scooped by 'The Q'; orginally appeared on Channel 4 Teletext.]

December 31, 2000... A recent BBC online chat with Red Dwarf cast member Robert Llewelyn (Kryten) confirmed a starting date for shooting the Red Dwarf movie!

"We start filming in May 2001. It will be released Easter 2002," said Llewelyn in the chat. "And as for the rumours about Madonna being in the film, I'm only allowed to say: No Comment!" Interesting! [Scooped by our very own 'Prydonian'.]


March 27, 2001...Last Thursday, March 22nd, the first live read-through of the Red Dwarf movie script was held at Shepperton Studios' Orson Welles Building in London. If you click your way over to the The Official Red Dwarf Website, you'll be treated to an account of the read-through highlights, including a funny little mis-read by Rupert Bates' who said, "Go flight. Give me a go/no-go for lunch." The site also snagged some photos of the cast during their read-through, including Craig Charles, Chris Barrie, Danny John-Jules, Chloe Anette, and, of course, Robert Llewellyn.

In addition to the read-through account, the The Official Robert Llewellyn Page reports that shooting on the film had been pushed back to August 2001, with rehearsals set for June and July. The availability of Danny John-Jules, who is currently busy with Blade 2: Bloodhunt , might have something to do with the change.

[Thanks to 'Tony' for the heads up.]

May 26, 2001... The Red Dwarf movie has been taking small but very important steps forward this week. The The Official Red Dwarf Website has announced a number of significant developments so let's catch up and fill you in on the latest:


Allan Cameron has been hired as the movie's production designer. Cameron's credits include The Mummy and its sequel The Mummy Returns, Tomorrow Never Dies and the Paul Verhoeven films Hollow Man and Starship Troopers. [Scooped by Lee Morgan.]

Screenwriter Doug Naylor will co-direct the movie with longtime series director Ed Bye.

Editor Mark Wybourn, sound supervisor Jem Whippey, casting director Linda Glover, make-up artist Andrea Finch and series costume designer Howard Burden have all been hired to work on the feature film.

Harvey Harrison is in negotiations to work as the movie's director of photography.

The cast has been given the new draft of the script and begun rehearsing scenes in the Shepperton Studios. Doug Naylor has had the rehearsals filmed, to then be edited together with existing Red Dwarf footage from the TV series as well as the movie's storyboards, giving him a rough form of how the movie will flow together.

Plus, if you want to take an early peek at one of the movie's scenes, the Official RD movie website is posting selected storyboards by Jim Cornish, the movie's storyboard artist. Go on, take a look.
September 13, 2001... Red Dwarf producer Charles Armitage has notified the The Official Red Dwarf Website that the movie is now targeted for a Christmas 2002 release. Armitage said he doesn't want his film to have to compete head-to-head with Star Wars, Episode II. The decision was made shortly after Warner Bros. announced it would bump the release of The Matrix Reloaded from sometime in 2002 to summer 2003.

[Scooped by 'Joey the Lemur'; originally appeared on the Official Red Dwarf website.]

December 31, 2001... According to Sci-Fi Online, a source close to the production has told the website that cast member Danny John-Jules (who plays Cat) has quit the production due to "problems with his character," and that Chris Barrie (a.k.a. Arnold Rimmer) is "unhappy with the constant rewriting of the final script." If this is indeed the case, the Red Dwarf movie would be in serious trouble. [Scooped by 'Spewey'; originally appeared on Sci-Fi Online.]

April 17, 2002... At last month's massive Red Dwarf convention, Dimension Jump 2002, Danny John-Jules denied rumors that he and Chris Barrie had left the movie, saying that he's "always been happy in Red Dwarf." [Scoop sent in by Matt King.]
 
i heard they ran into trouble because some of the actors decided they didn't want to do it, and that the film won't be out for ages. no where near chritmas.much much much later.
 
Wow

I just heard of this series (the premise, that is, if not entirely, I can't be sure). It sounds like it could be hilarious. Sounds along the same vein as Douglas Adams? I'll try to find some of the old film, although the video places here are pathetic. I really hope this new one goes through, though; we can always use more sci-fi in the market. :twirl:
 
Anyone have an update on this?

The latest I can find is this:
from www.Chortle.co.uk

Filming on the Red Dwarf movie is finally set to start in summer 2003.

Pre-production work began 18 months ago, but producers have struggled to secure the £10million needed.

However, co-creator Doug Naylor says the big-screen version is now ready to begin filming - and hopes it could hit screens by Easter 2004.

He told Teletext: "Getting the money has caused the long delay but we are almost there. There has been real progress in the past couple of months. It looks very, very good."

"Britain would be our ideal place, if we can afford it, but it is tremendously expensive. We are looking at locations around the world. I think the only place we haven't considered is Iraq,."

The film will reunite the stars of the BBC2 show, including Craig Charles and Chris Barrie. However, Naylor refused to be drawn on the plot, saying only: "It will involve a red spaceship."

Exactly the same thing was said 2 years ago, so don't hold your breath. The one good thing about them not being able to get American backing for the project is that at least it won't get messed around with.
 
getting closer???

Latest info I've heard on the movie....

RED DWARF: Dark Horizons reports that the film version of the Brit
sci-fi/comedy sitcom RED DWARF is set to begin production in October.
The £12 million film project will last 4-5 months and almost
certainly will be done at the Warner Bros. Gold Coast Studios in
Australia. Craig Charles said that "It's been five years in the
melting pot and it looks like it's finally going to happen. The
script is excellent and everyone is looking forward to making it."
Winchester Films have already provisionally sold it to Australia,
Britain and Japan and it should do well in America as it's shown on
US TV. Money is still a stumbling block but I think BBC Worldwide is
putting cash into it. The budget of £12m is massive for a non-
Hollywood movie".


Lets keep our fingers (and anything else) crossed :D
 
Surely the Red Dwarf movie must be the winner for number of rumours generated! I have heard that the movie was canned again due to....yes, you guessed it...lack of market in the U.S. I hope that I'm wrong!
 
I think you may be correct Goldwine (welcome to ASciFi BTW)

I took a look at the official Red Dwarf site: http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/

If you are a member of the industry looking for information on the film, details can be found here.

Red Dwarf - The Movie may be shot in Australia. Preliminary design work is currently underway and shooting is slated for late September, 2003. Crewing up has not yet begun. When Red Dwarf Films is ready to accept CV submissions and other enquiries, contact details for all departments will be posted here. Please watch the Movie Deck area of the site for further updates.

Please note that details given here will be for industry contacts only. Fan email and general queries will not be considered. Press and publicity information will be included later.

It's October now, so either no one updates that site, or else the plans have been changed. I'm very disappointed.

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As for rumours....

Can anyone enlighten me about the whole BBC/Terry Nation/Dalek/Doug Naylor business as I'm very confused?

I read that Doug Naylor holds the film rights to using Daleks and therefore that they might appear in this film as the villains. Is this true or just another rumour?

I also know that although Terry Nation is dead his estate is negotiating a new deal with the BBC over the rights to repeat Dalek episodes of Dr Who. This means that none can be shown at present, including on the Dr Who 40th Anniversary.

I also read that the BBC is bringing back Dr Who. Could it even be Dr Who without the Daleks?

Does anyone understand the complexities of this and can explain it simply?

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Thanks for the welcome :)
I subscribe to that Red Dwarf site too. Lets just keep hoping that something will be sorted out. Or, even better, a new series!
Sorry, I can't help you with the other questions.
 
Hmm, will the RD movie ever appear?? The rumours of Sarah Michelle Gellar, Jackie Chan, Bill Clinton(!) all seem to have been confined to the scrap-heap, but I don't think Craig Charles is dong much these days (except Robot Wars)...

As for Daleks, only Red Dwarf could get away with using them, I can almost imagine Lister and Rimmer legging it from them now :D

The Dr. Who/ Dalek rights thing sounds like a right mess :rolleyes:
 
To paraphrase Dave.

Would Red Dwarf be Red Dwarf without an ignorant Scouser and a failed Essex Boy?

Eddie Murphy might make a good Cat though?

As for Doctor Who without the Daleks.
It strikes me that despite their infamy, they have not actually been used that often, seven or eight times, certainly less often than the Borg. The Master was a more frequent visitor. So put simply Doctor Who could survive without them, provided they continue to dream up the huge variety of alien menaces.
 

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