Worst Anachronisms?

[PTeppic]

So - what is your "favourite" anachronism or plot-hole etc.? :errrr:
Certainly within the SG-1 series... can we have them between
film and series in this thread Mr Moderator? :eek7:

If this takes off we could always have a vote thingy - if someone
knows how to get them to work!

For starters, here are my top 10, worst first:

1) How does the gate know when to shut down?
2) If they were so brilliant as to guess the purpose of the stargate, and have the tracking devices, biomolecular scans etc ready for gate activation, how come they didn't try the remaining 33 glyphs as the seventh?
3) How come so many planets use English - which is a very modern language as languages go (perhaps about 800 years old), and given the Giza gate was buried thousands of years ago?
4) How long are Goa'uld considered larvae, if Bra'tac is 130+ and still carrying one?
5) A gate is always where it is (even if moving) - so why need an origin glyph?
6) Why didn't an incoming vortex un-bury the buried gate on (many worlds)?
=7) How did Apophis dial-up the gate in "Children of the Gods", and why not use this method more often, it seems much faster?
=7) Daniel and Jack dialed home in the film without the DHD - so why so much trouble when it was damaged in "Torment of Tantalus" et al.?
=9) Gate travel is one way, yet rings travel is bi-directional (and at the same time in the film).
=9) Gate travel is one way, but gravity and radio can come the other way.
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[Highlander II]

okay - i'll reply to this - i've noticed some weird things too -

as far as the 'everyone speaks English' thing - i think that's more a 'work-around' for the show than anything else - if they had to come up w/ a 'new' language for each episode, then all the eps would be like the movie, where Daniel spends half the film trying to talk to the people -- but i understand your point -- a lot of ppl speak english -- you figure something closer to latin would be the language of choice --


the movie -- they 'dialed home' w/o the DHD? (gotta go watch the movie again) --- but i think you're right - b/c in CoTG Carter says "this is what was missing from the dig in Giza" when she's admiring the DHD -- right b4 she says "it took us X yrs (don't remember the #) and 2 supercomputers to MacGyver a system to operate the gate." (or something to that effect)

oh- and you're #1 - how does the gate know when to shut down - i was wondering that too --- if it can stay open for 38 minutes - why does it shut down after the last person comes through? can it "see" that everyone is 'back'????

#3 - in the movie - weren't they using the cartouche from Egypt to 'choose' the glyphs? to me it seemed that they thought there were only supposed to be 6 glyphs to 'dial' a destination -- it wasn't until Daniel came in and saw that the 'pictograph' on the bottom of the cartouche was another 'symbol' that they realized they needed 7 (or do they say somewhere in the movie that they tried to plug in 7 glyphs and didn't get anything?)

okay - i think that's all for now ---

later!!
Highlander II

 

[Ã…sgard Shal]

Originally posted by Highlander II




#3 - in the movie - weren't they using the cartouche from Egypt to 'choose' the glyphs? to me it seemed that they thought there were only supposed to be 6 glyphs to 'dial' a destination -- it wasn't until Daniel came in and saw that the 'pictograph' on the bottom of the cartouche was another 'symbol' that they realized they needed 7 (or do they say somewhere in the movie that they tried to plug in 7 glyphs and didn't get anything?)

okay - i think that's all for now ---

later!!
Highlander II

as I recall from the movie they said they got as far as six symbols and could not figure out the seventh. Until Danny boy figured out that the seventh had to be the point of origin. Earth symbol. It seems to me if they could not figure it out, that they must have tried all the symbols to begin with why didn't the earth symbol work then? Duh!

 

[Koala]

In Argos, how could O'Neill use the vid-phone with the gate closed? We know it was closed bcause the scene started behind him and panned left past a curve of the gate.

Also, since the gate was "buried" up thru the bottom few feet by the platfor it is emberred in, how does it still operate without the concrete/stone passing thru it either being sent "elsewhere" or breaking out? This view of the gate is visible in Hundred Days (Argos) around the time they pull down Phelops' statue.

 

[Highlander II]

i thought when Jack was watching that video thing -- that he was 'rewatching' something they had sent through b/c they weren't allowed to go to the planet and he wasn't allowed to go back to earth -- it looked to me like he was watching something that he had watched already - b/c i had the same thought about the gate being closed while he was looking at it - so this was my conclusion --

H2

 

[pamie]

Originally posted by Highlander II
i thought when Jack was watching that video thing -- that he was 'rewatching' something they had sent through b/c they weren't allowed to go to the planet and he wasn't allowed to go back to earth -- it looked to me like he was watching something that he had watched already - b/c i had the same thought about the gate being closed while he was looking at it - so this was my conclusion --

H2

I think he was re watching it as if you listen you can hear him rewind it when the camera goes off him!

Pam

 

[{ACA} Spellcaster]

Ok about the larva......Teal'c says in the episode 1969 that they need to get back because his larva will take him over if they don't...

I think he also says something about them being larva for about 7 years..

I would say that over the course of their long lives the jaffa take on many different larva's.....a jaffa's job is never done!

The video phone is not a video phone.....it is in fact a recording and he has watched in a few times....as H2 and pamie said

the concret thing i can't answer unless the event horizon has cleared out enough of the cement that it isn't desterbed by the blossoming of it anymore....it main explosion (for lack of a better word) comes from the middle where the event horizon meets from the edges....

But those are just my humble thoughts

Willz
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[{ACA} Spellcaster]

my best guess about the point of origin glyph is that it is needed to help calculate where the wormhole is going.....it's like telling someone to drive somewhere...they need to know where they are starting from and where they are going to end up and where they need to go through to get there...

Willz
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[{ACA} Spellcaster]

Oh I do have something that has bugged me for a long time....but I think I may have also found a solution to it....so read it and tell me what you all think

Ok the plot hole that bugs me is about Daniel.....in the movie Katherine shows him a picture of himself and his foster parents....now I know that Daniel looks younger than he is but that can't change the fact that he definately looks a hell of a lot younger than 8 years old.......so after much restling with this I have come to the conclusion that yes Daniel's parents did die when he was 3 or 4 and it took the Department of whatever it is over there a few years to track down Nicholas (Daniel's grandfather) say 4 years that would take Daniel to 8 years old...and the conversation Nick has with Daniel about it not being his fault that he couldn't look after Daniel....

Ok does that make sense to anyone or am I totally loosing the plot.....and yes I do know that it only a tv show....

Willz
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[Koala]

Sometimes I think we all take tv and movies to seriously. But then, it's fun, unless you're the write who screwed up and gets a lot of mail asking him why he did/didn't do something.

Still tv and movies can place an idea in our minds which sometimes germinates and grows into soemthing like a novel, a career, or an invention. That's one reason why sites like this are so good.

 

[{ACA} Spellcaster]

Too true Koala....we have a lot today that probably wouldn't be here or at least as developed as they are if it weren't for movies/tv shows....

Try watching some of the older ones and see how much of todays technology is here and surpassed what they predicted!

Willz
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[Koala]

And if you were to read a little Jules Verne and see how many of his ideas became later inventions ... but then scientists have to run into a reason to become scientists, so no doubt the novels had an influence.

 

[PTeppic]

Originally posted by Highlander II
#3 - in the movie - weren't they using the cartouche from Egypt to 'choose' the glyphs? to me it seemed that they thought there were only supposed to be 6 glyphs to 'dial' a destination -- it wasn't until Daniel came in and saw that the 'pictograph' on the bottom of the cartouche was another 'symbol' that they realized they needed 7 (or do they say somewhere in the movie that they tried to plug in 7 glyphs and didn't get anything?)

But they are entirely NOT suprised when Daniel identifies the seventh symbol; they imply (though never say) that they recognised the need for the seventh glyph, as Daniel explains to General West and cohorts in the briefing room, but had just not found it; also the dialling computer, in their abortive try before Danny draws on the monitor to identify the earth glyph, has seven spaces!

 

[ShelbyS]

Okay, I have a question...
In COTG and TEW, after they come out of the Gate they are "frosty", how come they aren't in any other episodes?

I know that the logical reason is that it would probably take too long to do the "fosty" make-up everytime they went through the Gate, but does anyone have any other more interesting ideas?

 

[{ACA} Spellcaster]

One theory on why they don't come out of the gate frosted anymore has been bandied around on the show.....Doc Fraser I think it was said that the more that they travel through the gate the more their bodies become used to it....more climatised


Willz
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[PTeppic]

Sorry Goddess, but that is illogical...

You may feel, within yourself, not as cold going through a howling blizzard, but would still be covered in Mr Frosty flakes. I am also convinced that sometimes they walk peacefully into the event horizon at one end yet coming out falling or tumbling at the other, respite it theoretically maintaining velocity etc.

 

[CynVision]

Originally posted by P'Teppic
I am also convinced that sometimes they walk peacefully into the event horizon at one end yet coming out falling or tumbling at the other, respite it theoretically maintaining velocity etc.

That's been made fun of in a few fic stories. And even in the season one episode visit to Thor's planet where the assembled natives had a good laugh at our intrepid explorers entrance.

I'm sure it's part of a drinking game list somewhere. Or, should be.

 

[CynVision]

a better theory, or did I hear this on the show?

Originally posted by Goddess Willow
Doc Fraser I think it was said that the more that they travel through the gate the more their bodies become used to it....more climatised

maybe a better theory would be that they are "molecularly tempered" to 'gate compression? I just can't believe that wormhole travel has no lasting physical effect whatsoever. I'm reminded that auto shops take transmission casings and other parts, heat them up and then plunge them into a liquid nitrogen bath of sorts. Supposed to make them better one way or another. Let's say the Builders have the smarts to do the whole wormhole thing and at least prevent drastic "bad" effects on things going through 'gates. Or, on beings making many trips. It would really be crappy if your 'gate matience guy got frosted every trip if and has to do so many trips to inspect enough gates to keep things functioning.

 

[PTeppic]

Originally posted by CynVision
And even in the season one episode visit to Thor's planet where the assembled natives had a good laugh at our intrepid explorers entrance.

I believe that the laughing is for an entirely different reason:

All the locals on Cimeria know that only Goa'uld use the stargate, therefore SG-1 must be Goa'uld. Any Goa'uld arriving are struck down by Thor's Hammer without question, error or mercy. Therefore SG-1 are about to be struck-down.

And that is why they are laughing - at nasty SG-1's imminent punishment by Thor...

 

[CynVision]

Originally posted by P'Teppic
I believe that the laughing is for an entirely different reason:

All the locals on Cimeria know that only Goa'uld use the stargate, therefore SG-1 must be Goa'uld. Any Goa'uld arriving are struck down by Thor's Hammer without question, error or mercy. Therefore SG-1 are about to be struck-down.

And that is why they are laughing - at nasty SG-1's imminent punishment by Thor...

I wasn't sure if they'd have assumed that. I'll have to review the dialogue in that episode. Hmmm. Yah, Daniel had to explain they came from Earth.

I'm sure that if the Cimerians always laughed at Goa'uld and Jaffa coming through the 'gate the Goa'uld sure would be POed at being laughed at. :wink2: What I've noticed is that them Goa'uld walk through 'gates and don't fall down when they come out the other side. The symbote must have a 6th sense for gate travel. And of course, that makes them Goa'uld evil guys more imposing and evil. :coolyello

Meanwhile, the Tauri fall on their asses four out of ten times.