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The greatest Enemies were the Atok'k

They invented a Weapon wich should destroy the Goau'ld but the
Weapon was to perfect: It destroyed the Atok'k
The Weapons were spaceships wich adapted to there crew and let their Nightmares come true. No one eskaped the ship except SG1( theme from one SG1 Book: Hope)
 
Erm.....:erm: :erm:

Pardon? This was the storyline of a Stargate novel?

Bloody hell, no wonder the books fell down a huge black hole never to resurface.

Ships that adapt to their crew. Are we to assume that SG1's nightmares are all about fluffy pink bunny wabbits, butterflies and cute little fairies then? And were so cute that they couldn't help but escape? And presumably, the Goa'uld nightmares would be about being kept prisoner by SG1. I guess that could figure in many a Goa'uld's worst nightmares.

Sam could bore them to death with technobabble
Jack could drive them nuts with sarcastic, witty comments
Daniel could wear them down by reciting the alphabet in every language he ever learnt. Failing that he could whack them with artifacts.
and Teal'c....? Well he wouldn't want to torture them, just kill them, which would probably be a mercy killing after the others had finished.

:laugh: :laugh: :reyes:
 
Originally posted by Anni
Erm.....:erm: :erm:

Pardon? This was the storyline of a Stargate novel?
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Ah! It makes sense now!;)
 
novels

If we're talking about the Bill McKay novelizations, this is one of the major problems I've had with them... the totally seperate storyline agendas. They would probably be an okay series is 'Stargate:SG-1' hadn't appeared, but with the TV show storyline the most prevelant currently and then McKay's totally different world vision, I find I can't read McKay with any enjoyment.

Not that I find Ashley McConnell's 3 books all that great a piece of writing either. It honestly feels that she has never boned up on the series or the characterizations. Her characters feel totally wrong, her actualy writing style is cumbersom and wooden and the stories follow no logical internal logic.

It's a fact that there are several fan fiction writers who have written novel or novella length pieces that were a much better read than McConnell. I can't say that for myself as a writer as I pretty much stay with shorter works but I know I can do better [and I'm not spitting in the wind. I'm half-way through the first write on a novel I hope to have independently published if my agent can't get MGM authortization].

Ah well... so my for 'My Humble Opinion'. A writer has to have *some* self-confidence... :rolleyes:
 
It honestly feels that she has never boned up on the series or the characterizations. Her characters feel totally wrong
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I agree with you Rowan. There is a scene in one of the books (I believe it was Morpheus Factor) where it seems as though there's some undercover feelings between Dr. Frasier and O'Neill.

DR. FRASIER AND O'NEILL!!!!!!! What?! Everyone knows where the implied romantic interest has been. Come on!!!!

Truthfully, I was really into the books when my cable wasn't hooked up and I couldn't get Showtime. Nevertheless, they were a little painful to read.
 
Re: novels

Originally posted by Rowan
I find I can't read McKay with any enjoyment.

Not that I find Ashley McConnell's 3 books all that great a piece of writing either
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Lol! Just say how you feel Rowan!;)
Personally, I've never read a Stargate book. (I read some "x-files" books, inwhich I didn't really like the characterisation and that kind of put me off)

I hope you manage to get your book on the shelves. I'm sure it will be great, since your a fan of the show.:flash: :star:
 
Book

I've got enough military and medical background that some of the things writers [pro and fan] do to characters and storylines bugs the heck out of me. I'm a strong advocate of researching your work. I think this is why the McConnel books bug me.

If I had been contracted to write, let's say, a book about 'The Professionals' or 'The Pretender' or some other series I've never seen, I would have to sit down and see and hear the characters to know how to write them, get the feel for their speech patterns, the background logic of the show, it's goals, etc. without that, you can't do your work justice.

Enter one perfectionist. that's me. :p
 
Re: Book

Originally posted by Rowan
If I had been contracted to write, let's say, a book about 'The Professionals' or 'The Pretender' or some other series I've never seen, I would have to sit down and see and hear the characters to know how to write them, get the feel for their speech patterns, the background logic of the show, it's goals, etc. without that, you can't do your work justice.

Enter one perfectionist. that's me. :p
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I know what you mean. I work in as an animator/cartoonist (drawing and scriptwriting)- research is SO important when you're working for others.
I've been looking a little through the FANFIC section here and I've enjoyed the stuff I've seen.
You can certainly see the different characters in the lines.
 
Research

Yep, I can see you're in the 'Been There, Done That' school too. Poor research can turn a potentially good story into a piece of dreck.

There are several of us in SG fandom who make ourselves available to writers for research purposes. I primarily do military [21+ years in the US Army] and medicine [30+ there], but also cover most of the sciences and some arch and anthro.

The website Stargatefan [ www.stargatefan.com ] aslo has a research and info department for writers.

We try. We really do. :cool:
 
Well haven't even heard of books but the O'Neil thing and Dr. Fraiser seemed to appear a little in The Broca Divide. O'Niel cupped her ckin in his hand & they had a sausy look at each other....I remember 'couse I was disturbed couse they'd been implying the Jack & Carter thing. Maybe it was just 'cause he was trying to convince Fraiser to use him as the guinea pig to find a cure?
 
Originally posted by skoon
Well haven't even heard of books but the O'Neil thing and Dr. Fraiser seemed to appear a little in The Broca Divide. O'Niel cupped her ckin in his hand & they had a sausy look at each other....
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I remember that scene... in fact I watched that episode last weekend.:D
I think it was a moment which showed that "touch" is the most basic (and since the episode delt with primative instincts) way of human communication - and has just as much impact (if not more) than words.

Perhaps that's a little too much reading into it though! (Doing film/television theory for 3 years will do that to you!;) )
 
I really like your explanation, thanx. It make it less disterbing, the Jack+Sam supporter I am.
 
So when are they going to promote Sam to Colonel so that she & Jack can finally unite...seeing that Jack obviously will never retire...perminantly.
 
S&J

It's not a matter of Sam's rank, it's the positions they hold. Sam is in Jack's chain of command. If she made Colonel, unless he was a General [and he would be by the time she made two more pay grades: Major to Lt. Colonel then Lt. Colonel to Colonel - about 8+ years in the fast track], as long as he was her CO, it's a no no. They [the military] aren't fond of a couple being in the same command, let alone in the same chain, so Sam or Jack might have to leave the SGC altogether for anything to happen.

It's one of those military things. Sorry.:mad:
 
Re: S&J

Originally posted by Rowan
[and he would be by the time she made two more pay grades: Major to Lt. Colonel then Lt. Colonel to Colonel - about 8+ years in the fast track
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8 YEARS ???? :erm: Oh my!
 
Promotions

Well... Sam just made Major last year so she has 'one year in grade'. There are set 'time in grade' and 'time in service' [how long have you been in the military total] requirements for promotion. I'm not all that familar with Air Force requirements, being Army myself, but the two services are very similar. 8 years to jump two Senior Officer grades would be a fast promotion time ... it would mean she only had 4-5 years as a Major and only 4 or 5 years as a Colonel.

And that's assuming that the Air Force had a open spot for a promotable Colonel in her speciality.

When I promoted in the Army, there were four things that had to be taken into account. My time in service, my time in the grade/rank I was currently in, my skill level in my field and the needs of the service:ie: did they hape an opening in the next rank for someone in my speciality.

There's a lot to being promoted outside of that. They look at education, awards and medals, letters of commendation... a lot of stuff. A promotion can ber a quite complicated thing and never to be taken as 'due' a person or easy to come by.
 
...but it's tv, sniff sniff. Surley they can make an exception for us. If not premotion, some other excuse to get them together. I really am a real sap for Sam'n'Jack.
 
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