Captain Jonathan Archer

Neo

Red Pixie Boot Wearer
Joined
Mar 12, 2001
Messages
4,277
Captain Jonathon Archer

Early 40's. Physical. Intensely curious. Unlike the Captains in centuries to come, Archer exhibits a sense of wonder and excitement, as well as a little trepidation about the strange things he will encounter. He holds a grudge against the Vulcans, who he blames for impeding humanity's progress. But his Science Officer, T'Pol, is Vulcan, and he's struggling to reconsider these preconceptions. Although he has a strong sense of duty, he's a bit of a renegade - he's not afraid to question orders or even disobey them, if he feels in his gut that he's right.

Archer was there when the first girders of the Enterprise were put into place. And when the Vulcans tried to suspend the maiden launch after the Broken Bow Incident, claiming humans weren't ready for interstellar travel, Archer helped persuade Starfleet to press on.

Archer has mixed feelings about T'Pol; she embodies the arrogance and high-mindedness of the Vulcans who kept his father from realizing his dreams of space exploration. But he also realizes T'Pol is a more seasoned space traveller, and he often relies on her wisdom and experience; at times, he even enjoys her dry sense of humour. Archer and T'Pol will continue to butt heads regarding humanity's new role in the 'intergalactic neighbourhood', but they will also develop a long-lasting friendship that is rare for its day - the bond between human and alien.

Archer is something of a mentor to his chief engineer, Charlie Tucker, and although he enjoys Charlie's enthusiasm and unique sense of humour, there are times when the Captain has to remind him he has to tone down his somewhat overzealous personality.

The Kirks and Picards and Janeways will one-day have the benefit of the Captains who preceded them. But Jonathan Archer is the prototype. He's making history with every light year. Because he knows his Captain's Logs will be studied for years to come, he keeps especially detailed reports. The logs themselves will be both personal and humorous.
 
I can't add much to that. You said it all. He is more laidback than newer captains, a reasonable but headstrong Kirk-like figure.

"He's nothing like Captain Kirk or the other captains I've been involved with," executive producer Rick Berman told the US TV Cable guide. "He is very, very down-to-earth, not a buttoned down captain like Picard. We wanted somebody who is an excited human being, someone who is extraordinarily likeable."

"What I liked about this character was that he's very emotional," Scott Bakula told Star Trek Monthly. "He's a military guy and grew up in the space programme, but he's not stuck in that, he's not afraid to say what's on his mind, he's not afraid to buck authority, he's a bit of a rebel..."
 
Cants believe he has not got his own official site yet ?????
 
I found that strange too. He must get a fair bit of fan mail. Patrick Stewart has someone to answer his letters full-time (I don't know if she takes a wage or does it for fun) But you can reach so many people much easier with a webpage.
 
Do u know Patrick's web site... ??
 
He did have one for Christmas CArol,... I remember seeing it... but have lost the link??? stupid Neo
 
Captain Jonathan Archer's character was originally to be called Jackson Archer. Archer is a calm, relaxed, friendly captain, who is always in control of situations, and very adventurous. He leads from the front, but is also laid back. He is willing to listen to what others have to say, and is both charming and intelligent. Archer plays the romantic lead, very like Kirk did, but he doesn't quite have the same sense of humour.
 
Archer looks at space travel with a little more wide-eyed curiosity than Kirk did.
 
Spoilers for 'Silent Enemy'

*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*

Archer begins to have a change of heart in this episode, he begins to question whether they should have set off before the ship was completed.

I think the curiosity will diminish, and realism take over.
 
True, but since this is Earth's first trip into deep space, I imagine some of it will stay.
 
Charming, bold, and intensely curious, Archer is a renegade not afraid to follow his instincts. Clearly the prototype for all Starfleet captains to come, Archer wants to make history measured in light years as he ventures out where no man has gone before.

Bakula said on USA Today "[Archer's] heart is on his sleeve, and he's so excited to be out in space."
 
I'm afraid I'm not that impressed with Archer, he just doesn't seem to have that special something that a captain should.

When you compare him to Kirk and Picard he seems 'flat' and uninspiring, and, I, for one, wouldn't really want him leading the charge into a galaxy full of unknown hazards and dangers.
 
If the man could act it wouldn't be so bad, he was great in Quantum Leap but I find him a little boring personally. Sorry Scott.

Also as a character I don't think he makes a very good captain, surely he shouldn't be on practically every single landing party? And shouldn't he send someone into dark unkown places first in case something eats him?
 
Leadership

Originally posted by FeedMeTV
... as a character I don't think he makes a very good captain, surely he shouldn't be on practically every single landing party?

I agree but not for that reason. I think that it's good that he's on every landing party, leading from the front, a good leader should do that, it's what Kirk always did too for the sake of continuity. But he isn't a good Captain.

My earlier comments in this thread were all from the series 'bible', and the first season comments from the producers. Now that I've seen two and a half seasons I actually find him a rather strange character, schizophrenic, and a bad leader. He always seems to be at odds with others in his viewpoints, he is a very poor communicator, socialy inept, and he would not make for a very inspiring leader.

We were told that he would be "a calm, relaxed, friendly captain, who is always in control of situations" that he is "laid back", "willing to listen to what others have to say", and "someone who is extraordinarily likeable." I don't find any of those things to be true.

Often (I assume in order to heighten T'Pol's emotionless state) Archer seems to be written with more emotion, but he ends up seeming like he has the emotions of an adolescent child rather than a Captain of a Starship.

He sulks, pouts, complains, he's gruff, and he frequently changes his mind. Sometimes Archer does come across as calm and assured; he makes a plan, and has backup plans, or else he bluffs as well as Kirk ever did, but on other occassions he seems to fly totally blind. Depending on who the script writers are that particular week, he can be a steady hand that the crew do admire, or a frustrated, grumpy, impatient, loner who deserves no respect.

From our [Star Trek future] perspective some of his views are now the [Federation] norm, but in his time they are still strange. In his disagreements with Trip and Reed, he does not put across the reasons for his views very well at all, and you are left feeling that he won purely because he's the Captain. He doesn't compromise, he doesn't provide or generate choices, and he never explains. With Admiral Forrest you feel that Forrest won the argument, even if Archer got his own way in the end.

Worst of all is his stance over the pre-Prime Directive type views provided by the Vulcans and T'Pol. At first he is totally resolved against these ideas, then slowly he seems to be deciding that they are a good idea. Kirk and Janeway often broke the Prime Directive, but they always had good reason to do so, had the backing of senior officers and crew, and it was always the Admirals and Commodores that appeared to be buffoons. Picard was a great advocate of the Prime Directive, he could always explain why a certain choice should or should not be made, whereas Archer cannot or will not.

Archer's lack of any resolve over his views, and his frequent changes of mind, make him appear to be a very weak leader. Sometimes, such as at the end of '3.03: Extinction' he is simply completely at odds with everyone else on the whole ship. He does not deserve to command the confidence that those other Captains did.
 
Maybe they'll kill him off? And replace him with another captain? Unlikely I suppose.
 
Given that it's Scott Bakula I think that is very unlikely. They wanted a big name, and he was popular well before he became Archer. I actually disagree with you about his acting. I think he can act; he has shown that he can act. My problem is with the script that he has been given.

My solution would be for them to sit down an develop an arc for Archer. Where is this guy coming from and going to?

I know that that's not usual in Star Trek. In previous series they always made it up as they went along, often not writing the conclusion to cliffhangers until they returned from the Summer break. It was never written like Babylon 5 with a complete story written beforehand. But Enterprise is different; we already know the future history. We know about the Federation, we know Starfleet ships go everywhere in the four Quadrants. They should sketch out a future history now and get everyone to stick to it. Archer's personal character development could then be written in line with the development of the Federation.
 
Perhaps that's where my problem with him lies - in the script and not in his acting and I failed to recognise the distinction between the two. I'll muse over it while watching another eppy.

I agree with a mapped out storyline. Everyone knows where the writers have to get Enterprise to but if they don't know how they're going to get there it's in danger of never making any progress towards the end goal because nobody knows what to do with them. The result would be a rushed few episodes at the end to fill in the gap between Ent and TOS. An ugly finish to a promising series.

An arc for Archer himself would be interesting. Too prominent and it would overwhelm the series and if it were too subtle nobody would pick up on the fact it was an arc but something to help the audience relate to him would be helpful. Heck it can't hurt my opinion of him.
 

Back
Top