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prince vegeta

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yes i have been gone for a while because it just got boring "sorry" but i am back to continue my role as the prince and i would like to say wazz up to all of the new people well not new but have not been here as long as me even if i wasn't here and i am going to rule again just wait PRINCE VEGETA RULES!!!
 
yay! someone is here! welcome back...I think you left around the same time I joined...so I dont know you that well...but 'hi' anyway :D


oooooh this is my 5000 post :D
 
yeah well as i said it got boring but now i am back and here to rule all :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
 
well i am the prince of the most powerful race in all of the universe and all will bow down to my power.
 
you may say that now but when you do feel my power you will bow and then i will make you janitor of my entire city and if you do not work hard enough i will send you to the darkest planet know to our race where you shall suffer the fate of the damned.
 
Originally posted by prince vegeta
well i am the prince of the most powerful race in all of the universe and all will bow down to my power.

Actually, the average Namek is more powerful than the average Saya-jin.
 
that is why the saiyans would sent stronger fighter to worlds with larger power levels and weak fighters to worlds with low power levels that is why they are the strongest race not only that but they use everything they can use to win and so they do.
 
Originally posted by prince vegeta
that is why the saiyans would sent stronger fighter to worlds with larger power levels and weak fighters to worlds with low power levels that is why they are the strongest race not only that but they use everything they can use to win and so they do.

If that is ment to adress my post, I fail to see how it does. All that prooves is that they were senseable enough not to send their own people to the slaughter.
 
it was ment that if vegeta and nappa would have gone to namak then they would have killed them all and they would send more warriors so the namaks would have lost to them when vegeta could just fly up and destroy there planet without even having to fight them.
 
Originally posted by prince vegeta
you may say that now but when you do feel my power you will bow and then i will make you janitor of my entire city and if you do not work hard enough i will send you to the darkest planet know to our race where you shall suffer the fate of the damned.


i may have a sweet avatar but I'm no sweetie. It's a front, a front which is veeerrry belivable. I bow down to noone. take orders from noone, and I'm going to take all the power, and the fate of the dammed shall be yours, prince Vegeta :evil:


*well, I guess Evil Sin has come out to play...*
 
sooner or later all of the universe will fall to the power of the saiyans so you may not bow but you will fall and if you fall you will fall hard and fast.
 
Okay people, let's put egos aside and look at the facts about Nameks and Saya-jins.

Nameks

They're a peaceful race of farmers and healers. Untill Freezer and his men landed, no hostiles had ever set foot on planet Namek. Nameks do not desire power or have a thirst for battle. They do not train at all, as they have absolutly no reason to.

That means whatever power a Namek has is what he has naturally.

The three Nameks we see Dodoria kill are young, healthy, and in their prime. They each had a power level of exactly 3000. Since this was true for all of them, it stands to reason that we can asume that this holds true for most(if not all)young healthy Nameks.

Saya-jins

They are a warrior race that covets power. If a Saya-jin is deemed to be too weak, the Saya-jin is sent away to a weak world.

Radiz was not sent away as a child. After a lifetime of fighting, Radiz only acumulated a power level of 1200. Considering that he has been an active warrior his entire life, his PL at birth must have been fairly low by comparison.

Since Radiz was never sent away as a baby, it means he was not deemed to be a weak fighter. That means that someone born so weak that he only gets up to a lil over one thousand after an entire lifetime of fighting is considered to be strong by Saya-jin standards.

...so what about the "exceptions"?

Nail

By far the strongest Namek on their home planet. I fully believe that Nail was only so powerful due to his potental being relieced by the elder. I mean come on, the most powerful person on Namek just happens to hang around/guard the one person on the planet who can release hidden power...too much to be a coincidence. So Nail is a kind of "just in case", ace in the hole guy in the event that something bad did happen on Namek.

Piccolo

The only reason Piccolo cared about becoming strong, was evil, or was even concerned with training is that he grew up on a very violent and harsh planet(earth), and that drastically effected the way he grew up.

Also add to the fact that Piccolo has endured several merger powerups, as well as spent two days in the ROSAT.

Napa

Napa led the Saya-jin eliete. The Saya-jin heirchy is rooted solely in strength, so the fact that Napa led the elite means that he was the strongest of the elite. This means that Napa was the strongest Saya-jin outside of the royal family.

When Napa found out that someone with a PL of 5000 (Goku) was coming to the battlefield, he had a look of fear on his face. However Napa faces Goku anyway. To me this says that Napa was weaker than 5000, but not so much that he thought he'd have no chance.

Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, excetera...

The only reason any of these people are so strong is that tehy did not live their entire lives as normal Saya-jins did. Goku and Gohan underwent special training, and Vegeta was born into power & augmented it through special training methods.


...so what in the hell was my point in all of this? This:

Average Saya-jin = 1200 (give or take)
Saya-jin elite = 4000 or less

Average Namek = 3000-ish
"elite" Namek = Nail's PL (40,000?)

All the main people in DBZ = literally the freaks of their respective races. How strong they are has no bearing on how strong their overall race is.
 
well you also have to put in that planet vegeta was destroyed by frieza which only left the three saiyans radiz, napa, and vegeta and we know that vegeta is the strongest which if i remember when he was fighting goku was about 16000 and if he was under a full moon then his power would increase ten fold and that is 160000 which is way more than nail's power level so the saiyans would be the strongest if frieza would not have destroyed the planet so the saiyans are the strongest race even if they are born weak.
 
one thing at a time

Originally posted by prince vegeta
well you also have to put in that planet vegeta was destroyed by frieza which only left the three saiyans radiz, napa, and vegeta and we know that vegeta is the strongest

Yes, though that has nothing to do with anything being discussed here.

which if i remember when he was fighting goku was about 16000 and if he was under a full moon then his power would increase ten fold and that is 160000

Vegeta's PL was 18,000. His Ozaru PL would be 180,000.

which is way more than nail's power level so the saiyans would be the strongest if frieza would not have destroyed the planet so the saiyans are the strongest race even if they are born weak.

Oh boy...you do realize that the strength of one or two people does not represent the strength of a race in general, don't you? It doesn't matter how strong Vegeta or Nail are, it still doesn't make their races any stronger or weaker.

...anyway, you've missed my point entirely. What I said origionally was this:

Actually, the average Namek is more powerful than the average Saya-jin.

People like Vegeta & Nail are not representitive of the average member of either of their races. None of the main DBZ characters are. If your arguement centers around how strong Vegeta or someone like him are, you have no real arguement.
 
well first of all how do you know that the nameks do not train they just all of the sudden know how to fight and fly without training for it and if planet vegeta was not destroyed then i believe that THE AVERAGE SAIYAN WOULD BE STRONGER THAN THE AVERAGE NAMEK and thanks for the correction i thought vegeta's power was 16 thousand and you brought it up 2 thousand so as long as he is stronger.
 
Originally posted by prince vegeta
well first of all how do you know that the nameks do not train

Everyone who ever talked about the Nameks refers to them as a peaceful race of farmers. It is also stated that Freezer and his men were the first hostile people to even set foot on Namek.

they just all of the sudden know how to fight and fly without training for it

Training doesn't automatically mean prepairing to fight. "Train" is pretty much a glorified word for "practice". You can train to be a doctor, you can train yourself to speak another language, so on. The Nameks learned how to fly and manipulate their energy, but learning that does not automatically mean they will use it against others.

and if planet vegeta was not destroyed then i believe that THE AVERAGE SAIYAN WOULD BE STRONGER THAN THE AVERAGE NAMEK

Plese do as I did and actually back your opinion up with some solid facts/evidence, not just statements like "because Vegeta is so strong he rocks!".

and thanks for the correction i thought vegeta's power was 16 thousand and you brought it up 2 thousand so as long as he is stronger.

...and strength is all that matters...NOT!!!...
 
" because vegeta is so strong he rocks"

hey thanks i knew you would see it my way and where is the proof that the nameks do not fight each other on good terms it is just like having a tournament but they are still fighting each other and there was only 15 or so eps on planet namek where they were fighting so there is no proof
 
Originally posted by prince vegeta


hey thanks i knew you would see it my way and where is the proof that the nameks do not fight each other on good terms it is just like having a tournament but they are still fighting each other and there was only 15 or so eps on planet namek where they were fighting so there is no proof

How about not answering one question with another question. I've already layed out my proof, and all you have to do is read back to see it. Now I expect you to do the same, and actually give something that isn't blind speculation based solely on who you like better.
 
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