Tech for Red Sky...Spoilers!

[shazstar]

Having just watched Red Sky on ASf file here in Australia (we haven't recieved all of s5 yet) I have a few questions on some of the tech aspects of the show.

First up... how can a heavy element (or any element) "piggyback" on the wormhole between galaxys?

Since it obviously 'can' how come there hasn't been any incidence of this before, where elements are introduced to other systems?

I have alot of questions and theories about this episode...so what do you guys think?

 

[System Lord Gypsy]

I'm not sure how, and it may well have happened. THis is the first time it's been pointed out to us I think because this is the first time SG-1 had to gate through a sun to get somwhere and therefore it was the first time we saw the effects of it.

Gypsy

 

[PTeppic]

Where I would normally jump straight in with some incisive technical reasoning, I am for this one immensly stumped, but a lack of visibility. No S5 here either...

[Will try to remember to reply when I 've seen it! ]

 

[System Lord Gypsy]

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For those who want to know basically, SG-1 gated to a planet but the worm hole had to go through a sun on the way. An element piggybacked the wormhole and caused the sun to redshift. I forget the whole reason but due to the redshifting the sun was going to destroy the planet somehow.

Gypsy

 

[Jedispara]

the redshift,, was actually a shift from visable light into ultravoilet so that means that all fo the plant life was going to die... and also about the piggybacked elements... the only reason why they even knew about it was because of the suns shift in color....

 

[System Lord Gypsy]

Thank you, I couldn't remember all the reasoning behind it but I did know that somehow the redshift was going to cause all the inhabitants to die.

Gypsy

 

[Jedispara]

not a problem, glad to help!

 

[shazstar]

Originally posted by PTeppic
Where I would normally jump straight in with some incisive technical reasoning, I am for this one immensly stumped, but a lack of visibility. No S5 here either...

[Will try to remember to reply when I 've seen it! ]

REALLY? Are you australian Pteppic? I thought Oz was the only country that had been deprived of s5...maybe I am mistaken!!

The episodes have only aired up until "Ascension" I'm lucky a friend of mine has a cd burner and burned all the asf file episodes onto disc for me.

 

[System Lord Gypsy]

What you'll find with a lot of countries is that the sattelite and cable channels nab all the good shows first, thos with terrestrial tv have to wait for them. I'm assuming this is the case with Pteppic.

Gypsy

 

[PTeppic]

Gypsy - bang on: I have enough trouble choosing between 5 terrestrial channels, without spending good money on extra satellite or cable channels.

Shazstar - as said by Gypsy: our terrestrial has just finished series 4, though S5 comes out on DVD (at 4 eps per month) starting in April. Series 5 was also on satellite/cable from Sept-2001 to January 2002.

Also, having just re-watched "1969", I was just wondering about the whole "wormhole passing near the sun" thing... This would mean that somehow the wormhole passes through "real" space, which is reinforced by "Red Sky". So how on earth do they work, if they also go through real space?

 

[System Lord Gypsy]

That is a very good point which never occured to me, I was assuming it was something likes Omoks not exactly folding space long range communicator but it quite obviously isn't. It does make you wonder how if a wormhole is travelling through normal space which it would have to do to to affect a sun how on earth {or not as the case may be} does it connect planets in a matter of seconds.

On another note if you remember the Tollans point blank refused to give earth their technology right up to the point at which Omok died. In that case how did the SGC end up with a tollan long range communicator. I forget the episode it was in but I specifically remember one of SG-1 going to the top of a hill without a Tollan and using one.

Gypsy

 

[Jedispara]

ok, what about this.... the matter itself croses over into another dimension, but there is a tracer that travels through normal space... idea????

 

[PTeppic]

Gypsy - weren't they using the Tollan communicator to contact the Tok'ra for some reason?

Jedispara - although I am not fully convinced, I suspect it is all to do with multi-dimensional physics, and that although MOST of the energy and particles travel through some odd dimension outside our own, the graviational and other effects of our "real" dimensions have some impact on the inter-dimension wormhole... but this area of physics is perhaps the most advanced there, so unless Prof Steven Hawking is reading this?

 

[shazstar]

I would assume that (in the case of the wormhole close to the sun idea behind the mishap in "1969") although the wormhole is essentially travelling in one dimension, the heavy energy and densituy of large stars such as our sun would possible exert some kinda of force on the other dimension.

 

[Jedispara]

so basically your saying that the gravity well idea is what looped the stargate back. and yes P'teppic i would agree that it has to do with interdimensional quantum mechanics of wormholes... cool!

 

[PTeppic]

I would guess it is as much trans-dimensional properties, as much as inter-dimensional - i.e. the wormholes are travelling through and affected, or being affected by a number of dimensions - and whilst they don't simply travel through ours they SORT OF travel through ours... hence the effect of the sun's gravity in "1969" and the particles affecting the sun in "Red Sky"

 

[Jedispara]

exactly!

 

[hick]

Tollan Communicator

The communication device that was used by the Tollan was so they could contact the knox because the other races the SGC knew would have taken too long getting the Tollan to their new home world. They had to use the communicator because SG1 had told the knox to bury their gate.

Hick

 

[System Lord Gypsy]

You'll find it was also because the Tollans classed the other races as inferior, I forget the word they used and they were worried that less advanced races wouldn't use their technology the right way so the Nox was the only race they would accept. You are right about the use of the transmitter due to the gate possibly being buried though.

Gypsy

 

[shu_hunter]

I'm gonna take a step back trom trans-dimensional gravitational feilds, and suggest something about the occurances in Red Sky.
What if elements piggyback on wormholes all the time and they've just never been realized? It's only in this case that it got dropped off in the K'tau sun that it really became obvious.

~Shu Hunter
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