6.07: Shadow Play

[CynVision]

Not to make too much of a stink, but did anyone else pic up the twin tower thing going on in the exterior shot of the Kolonian city?

 

[WingedThing]

twin tower thing

Originally posted by CynVision
Not to make too much of a stink, but did anyone else pic up the twin tower thing going on in the exterior shot of the Kolonian city?

The twin towers in the episiode look more like Cincinnati's "Dolly Parton" twin towers than the ones that stood in New York.

 

[CynVision]

Re: twin tower thing

Originally posted by WingedThing
The twin towers in the episiode look more like Cincinnati's "Dolly Parton" twin towers than the ones that stood in New York.

Weeelllll, I'm not saying they look like the WTC, but didn't they see what they were doing when they made up that shot? It's just me that keys to these random useless things.

And someone over on LiveJournal also noticed that Jonas' gun in the Doctor's halucination had a red light on it. So very odd.

 

[skoon]

ya I noted those twin towers in Meridian. This is the first S6 I don' t think I'm looking forward to. All the other eps discriptions have excited me (WHEN AM I GETTING S6!!!! ) I don't want eps to revolve to much around Jonas & his slurry SH pronunsiations (even when an S-H isn't present, eg. extremley...exSHtreemly). He annoys me (of course I've only ever seen him in Meridian).

 

[CynVision]

I'm in the CN boat of funny vocalizations. In grade school I was told my "S" was "wrong" and was forced into the speech therapy room to repeat words for a few weeks. And burn me if I ever got the word "enemy" out right in conversations... Maybe CN is one of them actors that overcame stuttering? OTOH, actors are the people who are more likely to really crack down on their speech. At least the stage actors I knew did. A lot made sure they cracked at some of the "T"s and stuff like that. Or, a picky director or SM had it in the post show notes night after night. The less acoustically perfect the theater space, the more they had to work that everyone heard them. And a lot of the small theaters in Chicago are reformed storefronts and are really bad. One place had skylights and stuff got lost up there. It's rare to work in a "real" theater like my high school had. There you could clap your hands and hear the echo off the balcony wall. Sweet space. Now you prolly get that sort of thing even less on TV sets but everything you do say is picked up on mic.

 

[Falcon Horus]

I think it was a good epi. A little confusing sometimes but with Doc's help it all made some sense to me.

Falcon Horus

 

[lisasg1]

Yeah, it was good, and confusing!

 

[Dave]

Originally posted by lisasg1
Yeah, it was good, and confusing!

Probably, too confusing. I would have to watch it again too, because many of my criticisms are explained by it being a halucination, but if it is then it throws up other criticisms instead:

Originally posted by Jobeth
Am I the only one who thinks that Jonas might be a spy?

Originally posted by WingedThing
So you guys didn't notice that "Jonas" was different in some of his conversations with Valis or that Valis kept holding his head.

Originally posted by HeyLynny
I also noticed that Jonas was talking different (like a robot or something). I actually thought that he might be a clone.

I thought all those things too: I thought it was a bit early to have him cast as a spy, because some of us still think he is, but I never believed he really was one though. I thought that they had made a clone too.

Originally posted by CynVision
I'm wondering that SG-1 got to search out the resistance's base without being escorted by Kelownan officials.

And being able to carry their own weapons.

Originally posted by skydiver
The whole scene where Jonas and Dr. k are being chased is all in Dr. K's mind. that's why everyone is so off...it's not real

That explained that, but I agree with CynVision:

Originally posted by CynVision
It's still bugging me that the Kelownan officials were so busy with their crisis they "let" SG-1 smuggle Dr. K's cache of Naquadia-whatsit back. Am I seriously to believe they just strolled past with boxes of the stuff?

They really did find that stash of Naquadria (sp) in the dusty wharehouse didn't they -- Sam used a nifty gagdet (one that the Kelownans would have surely confiscated.) And what did Jonas use to bargain with, in order to allow Dr. K to be brought to Earth for treatment. He was still a traitor, wouldn't they just arrest him after the negotiations broke down?

My main suspension of disbelief was that SG-1 was sent anyway. Time for negotiations was short. Surely, trained negotiators in the art of the complexities of trade and arms deals would have been better. At the very least, there should have neen a US Senator with them, or someone who could give on-the-spot decisions without reference back to Earth (I guess they didn't do that with the Tollan, so at least they are keeping continuity.)

And when did we develop the 'Prime Directive' anyway, it never bothered O'Neill before. Hammond says, "You sound like Daniel Jackson". O'Neill replies, "Well I spent a lot of time with him." That's is funny as a 'Jack-ism', especially coming straight after "Abyss", but actually it is very true, it used to be Jack who was gung-ho and Daniel who said these things. It was just a throwaway line and ought to have been developed more.

What actually happened in the end for real? SG-1 stole some Naquadria (sp) but that war wasn't prevented, was it? How did Jack's 'Prime Directive' actually help anyone on the planet? If his planet is wiped out, Jonas is going to feel pretty bad about his part in all this.

 

[RangerOne SG13 SOR]

Grr after watching this episode again I the plot while good is corrupt with the normal "USA do gooder attiitude"

After watching episode upon episode where Jack spits the dummy becuase he (and the SGC) are refused advanced technology (even though it is intended for defence).

The first time the table is reversed Jacks incredible concious somehow forgets this and makes no effort to provide them with the help they require.

Remember at the start when Carter talked about the naquandria she said "we need this, we really need this" "it is our best hope of ever creating weapons and shields that will work against the Goa`uld"

So they try to offer medicine knowing they would refuse it.

Ultimatly all the Kolonian`s wanted was help with thier Jet engine program. One easy fullfiled by Major Carter (Pilot, Advanced physicist, Stellar Cartographer, Special Ops Soldier, Advanced Alien Engineer,Computer programmer + many more fine US air force skills, and i thought they just flew jets!)

In the reality of war im sure the enemy would of either sabotaged or stolen the jet design giving them no real advantage.

At the end though all SG1 did was force them to use the Naquadria bomb.

I think the next time we see them things will be very different, This world will come back to haunt the SGC and it will be time for payback...


They could at least give some form of continuity to Jacks character.


@CynVision

And someone over on LiveJournal also noticed that Jonas' gun in the Doctor's halucination had a red light on it. So very odd.

Those guns are from Series 3 episode 9 called Rules of Engagment.

While looking like conventional weapons they fire "stun bullets" They easily recognisable becuase the weapon magazine glows red at the bottom.

SG1 have been know to take these weapons out when expecting trouble but do not want to risk casualtys.


Ranger

havent posted on these for a while, good to be back

 

[webmouse]

My biggest problem with this ep is that it wasted time stealing the plot from Ron Howard's Oscar winning film Beautiful Mind and did precious little to give background information on JQ, who sorely needs a background.

In the 45 mns we did not see JQ check on his parents, call up his old girlfriend or head for the local tavern for a brew with his old buddies. Other than some slight mentions from the First Minister and the scientists, we don't get any sense of JQ's real connection to his homeland.

Another missed opportunity. . .