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Ok, I heard that there was gonna be a season seven and that Jack, Sam, and teal'c were in it but I have no idea about jonus...Is he gonna be in it? Coz if he is i'll shot myself, I hate him sooooooo much ...so well then? Is he?
 
CN's signing a two year contract with MGM doesn't necessarily mean he'll be on Stargate SG1. He could always work on another MGM project or get paid off. I'm sure MGM contracts have an 'escape' clause to get rid of an actor if necessary.
 
:alienooh:

Hi everybodypeeps :rolly2:

I caught the season 6 episode with "Daniel" in it and it was a waste of time :(

It's just not the same without him in the SG-1 team!

But this happens a lot in loads of different series! Look at The X-Files without Mulder for instance! Even though the guy that replaced him was pretty good it wasn't the same!

John :smokin:
 
Well, I personally hope he's in it. I like Jonas, and it would be great to see both of them, him and Daniel. :D

Krystal :p
 
whether or not he's in it has yet to be determined. As a matter of fact, whether or not there's a season7 has yet to be determined.

Corin did say he's signed a 2 year contract so i personally think it's likely he'll be in season 7...but until the ink's on the paper...nothing's official or set in stone
 
Originally posted by skydiver
As a matter of fact, whether or not there's a season7 has yet to be determined.

Good point. :D

Krystal :p
 
Originally posted by skydiver
whether or not he's in it has yet to be determined. As a matter of fact, whether or not there's a season7 has yet to be determined.

Rowan started a thread a day or so ago announcing that MGM had made it official -- a go for S7 with RDA remaining in his actor/producer capacity, but on a reduced schedule. MS may be returning in some undetermined capacity. No other cast members were specifically mentioned.

If CN has a contract, that doesn't mean that he has to appear. It just means he has to be paid. However, as much as some fans hate JQ and want DJ back, the credibility of the show will be damaged (IMHO) if the writers take the easy way out -- ie, letting JQ die in some heroic bid for acceptance and then DJ miraculously un-ascends to resume his old place on the team.

It would be better to expand the team, allowing both JQ and DJ to be part of it. JQ is developing, albeit slowly, into a likeable and useful character. It would be a pity at this point to lose him -- and it would be an indictment of the show's producers that they made serious mistakes during S5.

I'm not comfortable with DJ returning from the dead. So much emotion went into his demise, that suddenly being able to descend back to mortal form would cheapen the experience and leave cynicism any time a character is facing death. "Oh, Oma will turn up, glow our hero, and then later the hero returns to corporeal form; roll credits." :D

Once we know that the writers can use this plot device to avoid commitment when they kill a character, they can't appeal to our emotions in the same way. I can accept that fallen characters can always reappear in AU stories, dream sequences, flashbacks, etc., but in this reality, dead needs to remain dead -- except of course for the Goa'uld who have no problem with the negative consequences of using a sarcophagus.

DJ could remain ascended, revealing special insights and power, but struggling with the dilemma of when/how to interfere. As such he could still be part of the team and add a new dimension which usually expands the story possibilities.
 
i posted in rowan's thread my thoughts, which pretty much mirror yours. CN doesn't HAVE to be in season 7...depending on how his contract is written they just have to pay him for the season, whether he shows up or not.

IMHO, discarding him would be a huge mistake and horribly unfair. He walked into a tremendously difficult situation and handled it with extraordinary aplomb. Writing him out with a 'gee, we don't need you now, here's your check, call me, we'll do lunch' would be horribly rude. entirely possible but horribly rude.

If Daniel does come back on a full time basis, they're gonna have to find a really good, unique and original way to do it.

I do hope that as much care is given to that as was given to his departure
 
okay IMHO this is what i recon will happen, now that a seventh season has been confirmed i think that jonas will stay through half the season and leave and go back through the stargate to his home planet for some reason, and daniel will return PHYSICALLY i might add and rejoin sg1!

this is very far fetched but if the producers at stargate have realised the reaction to jonas i think they may reconsider. although jonas is a wonderful character in his own rights and he brings new depth to the show, he simply isnt as good as our beloved daniel

those are my thoughts, please dont be too mean about them
 
to each his own. personally, i've enjoyed the freshness and enthusiasm that jonas brought to the show. many times during season 5 it seemed that so many people were just marking time. then season 6 premiered and it was like the show got a huge influx of enthusiasm and energy.

I personally, haven't missed daniel one bit.
 
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I think this whole argument is academic as Jonus is there, Daniel isn't and I can't see Daniel coming back to the SG-1 and certainly not as his old self!

Having lived on a higher plane of existance it would be a bit of a come down for him! :lol:

ps

I find Jonus very, very boring! Sorry!!

John :smokin:
 
Posted elsewhere in this forum is the news that MGM has announced the return of MS as a regular cast member. Still no word on CN.

With this much lead time and no S7 stories set in stone, the writers have the opportunity to bring DJ back with a more creditable story than that of his departure.

I have enjoyed JQ and would like to know more about him, but at present I can't picture how the team might function with 5 members. I think removing JQ would be wrong, but the renewal of DJ means that someone somewhere has admitted that the cast change was a mistake and that those events that led MS to quit will be corrected for S7. If there was trouble getting enough screen time divided amonst 4 main characters, it will be more difficult to divide amongst 5.

Back to "wait and see."
 
Originally posted by skydiver
to each his own. personally, i've enjoyed the freshness and enthusiasm that jonas brought to the show. many times during season 5 it seemed that so many people were just marking time. then season 6 premiered and it was like the show got a huge influx of enthusiasm and energy.

I personally, haven't missed daniel one bit.

i do agree with you there! i wasnt saying before that i dont like Jonas, i do! ans your rite he does add a new type of freshness to the group, however hes not Daniel. we all knew that our beloved space monkey couldnt be replaced and now that MS is def back for season 7 where does it leave Jonas? i dont want him gone but maybe thats the way the producers would do it. or fade him out slowly. i now no that he has a 2yr contract with stargate meaning he cant leave just now, so he will be around, and so will Danny. lets just see how it plays out, thats all we can do!
 
:alienooh:

I think Jonus Quinn should return to his own world! But I am fascinated to learn how and why Daniel does return! :lol:

John :smokin:
 
Originally posted by Marty's Mine


we all knew that our beloved space monkey couldnt be replaced and now that MS is def back for season 7 where does it leave Jonas? i dont want him gone but maybe thats the way the producers would do it. or fade him out slowly. i now no that he has a 2yr contract with stargate meaning he cant leave just now, so he will be around, and so will Danny. lets just see how it plays out, thats all we can do!

actually, he can be bought out of his contract and basically fired. Most contracts have an exit clause where the studio can choose not to renew the contract and buy the actor out (basically severance pay)

sort of a 'we'll pay you $X if you act in 22 eps, we'll pay you $Y if we decide we don't want you back.

like you said, time will tell
 
Unfortunately the most predictable resolution is also the easy-way-out for the writers -- have JQ die saving others (payback for Meridian) and have DJ booted out of the glow collective for failing to heed the details of the non-interference clause.

Predictable, but far too easy. The more I consider it, the more I like the idea of a team of 5, allowing JQ to develop as yet understated aspects of his character and perhaps leaving DJ to glow along for awhile.

Even though in Ascension they showed how simple it was for Orlin to return to mortal form (with the drawback being, no further ascension without help from the other glow-beings), Orlin had been alone on a planet for milennia, glowing away on his own. He could have taken mortal form at any time and died a natural death had he wanted to end the loneliness. So, we know the glow-beings punish with exile, not by forcing mortality.

Then there is the unsettling idea that one should not be able to return to mortality without paying a price. For those who use the sarcophagus the price is all that is good within them.

We need a better sense of what DJ gives up to become mortal again. We know he is not omniscient nor omnipotent. Is he in the regular collective or is he a renegade like Oma and Orlin? (Oma has certainly been interfering and no one has messed with her powers :) )

I hope the writers can keep us guessing and are not constrained to bring resolutions timed to fit the end credits of any particular ep.
 
i'm still not sure where i stand re jonas but i like the idea of a team of 5 - if only out of respect for the fans who watched season 6 and gave it the ratings that made a season 7 possible.
shanilka
 
Originally posted by gategeek
i'm still not sure where i stand re jonas but i like the idea of a team of 5 - if only out of respect for the fans who watched season 6 and gave it the ratings that made a season 7 possible.
shanilka

exactly. I guess Daniel fans (the generic all encompassing meaning of the term) should be glad that not everyone turned the tv off in a fit of pique or out of disgust due to the changes or the ratings for season 6 would have been bad and there would have been no call for season 7.
 

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