Harry's cloak

I've heard that Harry having the same eyes as Lily is supposed to be very important in book 7 - personally, I think Harry is the legitimate son of James and Lily Potter, and Dumbledore is just a powerful old wizard who sees enough into the future to know that Harry will one day face V, thus he prepares him for the inevitability.
 
Could it be that James is still alive? JKR has only confirmed that Lily Evans/Potter is dead, it's strange how she singled Lily out for that statement and didn't include James.

Just a weird little thing I've picked up.

I just want Book 7, I wish she'd hurry up and finish it...

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[EDIT]: She also put paid to my Dumbledore is a relative of Harry's theory!!! Turns out he isn't. I still think he might be descended from Godric Gryffindor though.
 
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I reckon Lily's eyes will be important because Snape liked her, and he will see her eyes whenever he sees Harry - helping him to save the day at the end of the book :D
 
I agree with you completely - but no one else in the Potter world will. To them, he is now evil, and needs to be stopped.
 
I think Snape is the best character, and I also think dumble is bright enough to factor his own death into his plans. Snape is still good!
 
All right Ada you got me thinking about some real crackpot theories, thanks!

First of all. I have always felt that something was wrong with Dunbledore in the last 2 books or so. he made some tactical mistakes and in the GoF he put Harry's life clearly in danger.

All right, I had thought about this before but...

Adasunshine said:
Now, it is a bit crackpot but what if, Harry is a descendant of Dumbledore who himself is a descendant of Godric Gryffindor (hence being able to pull the sword from the hat). As mentioned in the first two books, Harry knows nothing about his father's family, we never get to find anything out in the subsequent books either.... Also, they say that ol' Dumblydore is the only wizard alive who is a match for Voldy, another reason that he could possibly be a descendant of one of the 4 greatest wizards of the age.
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What if Harry's father was a descendant of Dumbledore and Harry's mother (muggle) was related to Tom Riddle in some way? That would be probably be too much, plus Harry has not truly proven that he is a "great" wizard...yet.

Just a thought.

By the way, i guess this post had nothing to do with the cloak!

*snow*
 
^_^ LOL!

JKR put paid to the Harry being related to Dumblydore anyway, says that they're not related in any way

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Harry is dumbledore travelled back in time after a certain age to teach at warthog's school of lizardry and aided by a fleet of miniature giant space hamsters led by a rashemar ranger called Minsc.

I must have been smoking something weird whilst reading those books.
 
Joel007 said:
Harry is dumbledore travelled back in time after a certain age to teach at warthog's school of lizardry and aided by a fleet of miniature giant space hamsters led by a rashemar ranger called Minsc.

I must have been smoking something weird whilst reading those books.

I... *shakes head*... your mind is a very scary place I think:rolleyes:
 
you are a very odd person i must say
and to be honest, i think you MAY have lost the plot
hehe
 
Harry a decendant of Griffindor, Adasunshine? Mmmm worth considering!
As its been pointed out, clues to the unfolding story are revealed to those canny enough to see.
At the moment I'm pondering on harry's conviction that it was his father who saved him and his uncle Sirius when they were attacked by the Dementors by the pool in the forest. Did his father really die...or is there a twist as in the case of Peter Pettigrew who everone believed to be dead?
Harry physically inherited his mothers eyes, AND his fathers inclination to disobey the rules.
Dumbledors note saying he was RETURNING the cloak has my mind in a whirl. Could he in fact be actually returning it to Mr Potter in the guise of young Harry? Methinks the time gadget Hermoine wore around her neck in The Prisoner Of Azkaban is another clue, and was somehow used to help the Potters in their moment of greatest need.
I'm going to sound really Potty here and suggest the Potter parents were saved by joining them together into the form of baby Harry.
The baby would then have to be re-taught the ways of wizardry, but from the outset the power of Harry's actions and spells prove an ability beyond his years.
When Harry Discovered the mirror showing his parents, did he stumble on a further clue to his origins? And did Dumbledor realise it was not the right time for explanations so he removed it.?

Well guys this is my very first post on this site and I find I could go on and on and on. So I had better close now before your eyes glaze over with boredom.
 
Ok, I'm sorry, but I feel the need to contradict all of that (sorry!)
- Harry already realised that it was himself that he saw across the lake. If it had been his father, he would've seen him when he went back in time...just like he was hoping to. Instead he realised it was himself that he saw. And he does look "extraordinarily like your father" (but that doesn't mean he IS James!)
- Harry inheriting the traits of his parents...well, that is how this biology thing works..;)
- 'Returning' the cloak is probably just meaning returning it to the family that it rightfully belongs to. It was his father's, so i's rightfully being returned to the person who should have it.
- The mirror showed Harry his family because he misses them so much. It was moved because it was needed to hide the Stone.

Sorry, but no, I don't think I'd agree with your theory. However, I like the way you're digging into things to a much deeper level...however, I think you've gone slight too far here.
Just my opinion!
 
Since Harry inherited everything from James and Lily, e.g. the gold at Gringotts, he had also inherited the cloak. It was therefore being "returned" to it's owner, even though its owner had probably never touched it before.
 
LoL...Well I did say my mind was in a whirl, and it was late in the day..for me anyway.
To continue my ramblings..hehe. The clues concerning Malfoys 'filthy mudbloods' also point me in the direction of thinking mudbloods are equal and in some cases better than 'pedigree' wizards so the joining of harry's parents into one exceptional wizard carries the message...the word mudblood is irrevelant it is what you do with your talents that matter.

Thank you for your replies guys. I dont think I made clear my meaning, so I'll try to answer your posts...be gentle with me.

Hi, Paige Turner (great name by the way). Harry's dead old dad coming out of Voldemort's wand.
To be truthful I've got to get the book out and look it up. Will get back to you on that.

Hi, Hoopy Frood
The lake- Harry wishing it was HIS DAD and finding it was HIMSELF. I feel is a clue. (could be wrong.)
Hereditory - Each book stresses somewhere in its pages, the likeness of Harry to his parents, So much so, Harry becomes quite fed-up with it. (Could be wrong again).
The mirror- I meant the reflection itself and the close proximity of the group.

(Come to think of it, the photographs Harry has of his parents show them close together too. Why isn't Harry playing at their feet or being pushed on a swing or even playing a game of chase with them?) Does this signify the 'three in one'?

Back to the mirror. Dumbledore, when explaining the purpose of the mirror says to Harry....'Erised is like a normal mirror, that is, a man would look into it and see himself EXACTly as he is'... (something of which we are all aware and dont need to be reminded of, epecially at the age of 13.)... and finishes with the words 'men have been driven mad by it, not knowing if what it shows is real OR EVEN POSSIBLE'. He then tells him he is moving the mirror to a new home on the morrow.

I suspect there is more to it than just introducing the mirror in order for Harry to hold the image of his parents which he will need when facing the Bogart.

Most of the clues are easily overlooked. As in the case of Professor Lupin. When he stepped forward to protect Harry from the Bogart an image of a full moon appeared and it wasn't until later we found out why.
 

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