Complete collection?

[Lobolover]

Not in this country im afraid.There were no publications of HPL in this country EVER before 1990,cause of the comunist regimé.In fact,they issud his works newly with ilustrations by Kája Saudek-google that name for some pictures and youll now what I mean.

Only two rather recent normal colections have been put out here,but only thing in I couldnt find was the Derleth "colab"-"The peabodfy heritage"

And frankly,his grandson should not act so arogant.

 

[Ningauble]

Not in this country im afraid.There were no publications of HPL in this country EVER before 1990,cause of the comunist regimé.In fact,they issud his works newly with ilustrations by Kája Saudek-google that name for some pictures and youll now what I mean.

Why not order it from Amazon then?

And frankly,his grandson should not act so arogant.

What's "arrogant" about protecting your copyright? If he owns stories, which he does, then he has the right to expect to be paid for them. If you want to download them for free, then I guess you'll have to wait until 2033 when the copyright expires.

 

[Lobolover]

Its not HIS copyright,its his long dead grandfathers.He's just doing it for the money.

 

[j d worthington]

Its not HIS copyright,its his long dead grandfathers.He's just doing it for the money.

I'm afraid you're off-beam there. If the copyright was part of the estate inherited by his heirs (which it apparently was), then he has as much right to do as he sees fit with this as anyone else does with their inheritance. This is hardly arrogance; it is merely protecting his rights to property that does belong to him in law. And don't forget that a part of that may be that it enables him to help prevent corrupt versions from being promulgated on the internet, as well....

 

[Lobolover]

LEGALY its his-but his grandfather wrote them.I know that the rights passed on to him,BUT he hadnt a breath in making them,so thats why I dont consider them ethicaly his.

 

[j d worthington]

This is taking things quite a bit off-topic, but... very few of us have anything to do with the creation or acquisition (originally) of what we inherit from our forebears; this in no way alters the fact that both legally and ethically, when these things are bequeathed to us, the rights surrounding them do belong to us. And, most often (certainly, from what I understand, this would be the case here) this is exactly as those forebears would have wished.

Besides, he hasn't prevented these things from being available relatively easily; he has just prevented them being accessed without prior permission....

 

[Ningauble]

LEGALY its his-but his grandfather wrote them.I know that the rights passed on to him,BUT he hadnt a breath in making them,so thats why I dont consider them ethicaly his.

Well, you can't denounce someone as being "arrogant" simply for defending what's legally his.

Besides, none of the Lovecraft texts that are downlodable on the Internet are the corrected versions. Some versions are so ludicrously corrupt they make me laugh.

So if you want the good stuff, you have to be willing to pay for it. That's reality.

 

[wizardsbeard]

hi , this is my first post here, so i just wanted to check, the omnibus editions which i have, and are the only texts i've read, have a bad rep?
i'm not bothered about a few mis-spelling, are they bad enough to detract from the overall storys themselves? [although i read them, and thoroughly enjoyed them of course] recently i bought the hardback 'necronomicon the best weird tales of hp lovecraft' just so i'd have a nice edition, i prefer reading paperbacks, i like bending them, folding over pages ect.

 

[Ningauble]

hi , this is my first post here, so i just wanted to check, the omnibus editions which i have, and are the only texts i've read, have a bad rep?

Yes. You will note that two chapters of "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward" start with the same line, and the subtitle for "The Call of Cthulhu" is missing. Just to mention two things.

i'm not bothered about a few mis-spelling, are they bad enough to detract from the overall storys themselves? [although i read them, and thoroughly enjoyed them of course]

I don't know about you, but I'm bothered when "an" turns into "and", "Hsan" turns into "earth", "bholes" turns into "dholes", "Inganok" turns into "Inquanok" and "an ant" turns into "air out".

recently i bought the hardback 'necronomicon the best weird tales of hp lovecraft' just so i'd have a nice edition, i prefer reading paperbacks, i like bending them, folding over pages ect.

That one is SLIGHTLY better -- it doesn't have "dholes", for example -- but it's still got "air out".

P. S. The "Shift" key is your friend!!

 

[j d worthington]

Other than Necronomicon, what "omnibus editions" do you have? If you have the Penguin tpb editions, then these are much closer to an authoritative text than the other paperback editions out there. As noted, there are numerous errors in At the Mountains of Madness alone, including two large chunks of text which were omitted. There are examples of such things almost as egregious throughout the "standard" paperback editions (and many of the hardbound ones as well... including the Necronomicon, sadly, which uses the earlier VG texts, themselves based on the uncorrected earlier Arkham House texts).

So the best choices are the Arkham House or Penguin editions, though even here there are some surprising errors which crept in. And yes, at times these errors can severely alter the reading of a story, changing the sense, the structure, and the impact, giving a completely different feeling to the denouement. A sad fact, but true....

 

[Ningauble]

Other than Necronomicon, what "omnibus editions" do you have?

My guess is that wizardsberad is referring to the butt-ugly British Omnibus volumes (white spines, cover art by Geoffrey White).

If you have the Penguin tpb editions, then these are much closer to an authoritative text than the other paperback editions out there. As noted, there are numerous errors in At the Mountains of Madness alone, including two large chunks of text which were omitted. There are examples of such things almost as egregious throughout the "standard" paperback editions (and many of the hardbound ones as well... including the Necronomicon, sadly, which uses the earlier VG texts, themselves based on the uncorrected earlier Arkham House texts).

Strangely, the Gollancz Necronomicon corrects SOME of the more obvious mistakes (Inquanok/Inganok, for example).

So the best choices are the Arkham House or Penguin editions, though even here there are some surprising errors which crept in. And yes, at times these errors can severely alter the reading of a story, changing the sense, the structure, and the impact, giving a completely different feeling to the denouement. A sad fact, but true....

Yeah, that reminds me: There is a spot fairly early in "The Shadow out of Time" where the end of one sentence and the beginning of the next are missing -- and that sure messes up the story somewhat.

 

[j d worthington]

That is interesting about the Necronomicon; completely contrary to what I had been informed elsewhere. However, given your thoroughness in searching out such things, I gladly stand corrected. However... would you agree that the Penguin and current Arkham editions would still be the best available for textual accuracy overall?

 

[Ningauble]

That is interesting about the Necronomicon; completely contrary to what I had been informed elsewhere.

Stephen Jones confirms it in H. P. Lovecraft in Britain. I haven't done a page-by-page check, but I have noticed that many of the big howlers, such as Inquanok/Inganok, have been cleaned up.

However, given your thoroughness in searching out such things, I gladly stand corrected. However... would you agree that the Penguin and current Arkham editions would still be the best available for textual accuracy overall?

Oh, heck yes, definitely!!