i think my problem is that i'm not looking for pure entertainment anymore.
i don't doubt that there is some stellar fantasy out there, but the thing i like about good SF is that it examines the human condition (ie PKD) and / or is extremely funny (ie harry harrison).
ideally i'd like to learn something tangible about humanity, natural law, the cosmos... stuff like that, in addition to enjoying a cracking-good read. fantasy seems to be predicated too much on getting away from reality and creating elements that have no real relevance to the real world. once the last page is read the illusion begins to break down and you're left with nothing much more than the desire to rekindle the illusion.
i'd kind of like to be proven wrong, tho. if there's some fantasy that goes beyond the usual limits i'd love to hear about it.
Well, that's what I was getting at -- I may just not have expressed it very well. I'm not much of one for pure entertainment anymore myself... I've got far too many really meaty things to read, and I'm getting close to 50, so I've just not got the time to bother anymore unless I'm going to come away richer. That's why I suggest the older fantasy writers in general, rather than a lot of the newer ones. Mostly I'm meaning those before Tolkien's work took off so, as you had a lot of writers who were both trying to entertain, and to express some genuine thought about the human condition (whether through humor, drama, or stark tragedy).
While by no means all of the books in these series would fit that description, a fair number would, and I'd suggest looking into them... most of them you'll have to find at used book shops, or through libraries; and you needn't go for this specific edition of many of them, as they've had others. But, just for a taste, here goes (I'm providing two ways of finding out information about each):
Ballantine Adult Fantasy series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
BIBLIOHOLICA: Ballantine Adult Fantasy Series
Newcastle Forgotten Fantasy Library - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Haunted Bibliophile- Newcastle Forgotten Fantasy Library
For intelligent, humorous fantasy that is also exquisitely written and has more than a bit of an edge to it, there's James Branch Cabell's
Biography of the Life of Manuel (18 vols.). Not all of these are fantasy in the usual sense, nor do they have to all be read, nor in this order, though if taken in this order, they take on many added dimensions, and you see a lot more of the implications of Cabell's thought (these I do suggest the Storisende edition, as it was the revised set; however, if you can find some of these with the lovely Frank C. Pape illustrations, those add an entirely new dimension to the irony):
I.
Beyond Life: Dizain des Demiurges
II.
Figures of Earth: A Comedy of Appearances
III.
The Silver Stallion: A Comedy of Redemption
IV.
Domnei and The Music from Behind the Moon: Two Comedies of Woman-Worship
V.
Chivalry: Dizain des Reines
VI.
Jurgen: A Comedy of Justice
VII.
The Line of Love: Dizain des Mariages
VIII.
The High Place: A Comedy of Disenchantment
IX.
Gallantry: Dizain des Fetes Galantes
X.
Something About Eve: A Comedy of Fig-Leaves
XI.
The Certain Hour: Dizain des Poetes
XII.
The Cords of Vanity: A Comedy of Shirking
XIII.
From the Hidden Way and The Jewel Merchants: Dizain and Comedy of Echoes
XIV.
The Rivet in Grandfather's Neck: A Comedy of Limitations
XV.
The Eagle's Shadow: A Comedy of Purse-Strings
XVI.
The Cream of the Jest and The Lineage of Lichfield: Two Comedies of Evasion
XVII.
Straws and Prayer-Books: Dizain des Diversions
XVIII.
Townsend of Lichfield: Dizain des Adieux
And, of course, if you're interested in looking at the darker side of fantasy, which also has numerous sterling pieces of literature (in every sense of the term), you ought to take a look through Lovecraft's
Supernatural Horror in Literature, and see which of those he suggests sound intriguing. A lot of them are currently available on the 'net, through places like The Literary Gothic and such, so you wouldn't need to track as many down.
Supernatural Horror In Literature by H. P. Lovecraft
Works Referenced in Supernatural Horror In Literature by H. P. Lovecraft
The Literary Gothic - the premier webguide to pre-1950 Gothic-tradition literature
But essentially, fantasy is as rich a field as any other for students of serious literature, it's just that it is going through one of those phases where the vast majority is again fluff, and that makes it difficult for someone who hasn't been reading the stuff for a long time to know where to find the quality work.
And, of course, there are always people like Fritz Leiber, with his Fafhrd and Gray Mouser series, as well as others.....