External factors that affect your writing

Culhwch

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At the moment I'm having a hard time getting motivated to sit down and write anything, mainly due to a lot of frustration surrounding my job. I was going along a good clip for a little while - well, good for me, at least, though probably not for a productive writer - until just recently. Which is frustrating me even more. I keep thinking I should sit down to write to escape, to get my mind off of it, but I just can't summon the initiative.

So I just thought I'd start this thread as partly an opportunity to vent, and partly to seek advice. Anyone suffer the same fate, and if so (or even if not) any pointers to get through it?
 
Hi Culhwch,

Thanks for the thread... I was about to start a similar one.

I think I am having the same problem as you. Situation at work is very stressful, family is going through a rough time and I think I am showing signs of clinical depression. I want so much to write but just could not. Very frustrating. My mind just could not stay on a single thing for long. I get up at the same time hoping I'll be inspired or something will happen to motivate me, but just end up wasting time. Maybe I am trying too hard. Reminds me of that verse in the bible "the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak". I don't think it's writing block because I still have the desire and interest in the story, my brain just won't work! I used to be good at motivating myself, but it's not working this time either. I wish I have someone around to kick some sense into me... I mean it and I need that.
 
Whenever the situation is tense at home, I can't write very well, and that's been happening a fair bit lately. At times I haven't even been able to write to relax, and that's saying a lot for me. I don't really have any tips for getting through it, either, short of hoping that the situation gets better.
 
Stress and personal problems are always going to have an effect on your writing, as they will have an effect on the rest of your life as well. In the long run what you need is to address whatever's stressing you out.

In the meantime, I think the best way to write when you can't write, is to just write. It's advice you see everywhere, for good reason imo. Just write something, anything, and soon enough you'll be back on track.
 
I'll second that. I was hitting a high point in my writing a few years ago... working on several projects; if I got a little dry on one, I would go the the one of the others, and keeping excited about them all, they were all going really well... and then someone dropped a hydrogen bomb on my life. Before it was done, I was emotionally eviscerated and suffering from severe clinical depression. Since then, the fiction writing has been sporadic, at best.

But I continued to write, though concentrating on nonfiction and literary criticism/history. As a result, I do write -- sometimes quite a bit -- every day, and it has honed my abilities as a writer. It's not fiction writing, no, but it can be very exciting in its own way, and it has kept the juices flowing... and finally the fiction writing is starting to appear again, bit by bit.

So, yes -- write. If you can't work on your pet project, just write a journal, or a poem -- whether it be a formal sonnet, ode, anapaest, or vers libre; write an article; do some research and take notes on things that spark you, and put down the thoughts they call up... any number of things, but write. That's the best way to keep writing. If you let it slip, you get rusty, and then it becomes even more difficult, and you have to recover lost ground to get back into things again.
 
I have to disagree -- strongly. I say this from the point of view of someone who has experienced prolonged periods of writer's block over the years. (And in case anyone should accuse me of malingering, I will point out that in between I've managed to complete ten novels and a number of short stories. Which is more than a lot of people can say who contend they never are blocked at all.) You cannot cure writer's block, not by writing, not by tricking yourself, not by any possible means. Why? Because it's a symptom, not a disease. You have to cure the underlying cause. Very often, the cause is clinical depression, but it can also be something physical that's been undiagnosed and therefore untreated. Or it can be stress, or lack of confidence. You have to fix the problem behind the writer's block. Sitting down and churning out garbage (or what looks like garbage in your present state of mind) day after day may only increase your sense of discouragement, and if what you are dealing with is depression or stress it's only going to make things worse.

People have little bouts when they can't write, and they get over them with one of these quick fixes that people advise, and they think that's the cure for writer's block. That's like someone who had the sniffles telling someone how to fix their asthma. I'm not saying that you shouldn't try these easy cures first, because there is no use over-dramatizing and growing discouraged about a condition that may in fact be transitory.

You can also have one of the worst cases, and then something changes in your life and the problem goes away, and whatever you happened to be doing at the time, you think, "Wow, that's the cure. I'll know what to do next time." That used to happen to me, except the next time the same thing didn't work. Months later, the block would go, and I'd think whatever I was doing at that time was the cure. Wrong again.

If you can't write, fix your life. It may take a long time or a short time, because there are some things in life that can't be so easily dismissed. In the meantime, you can do other writerly things, like research, that will pay off later when you're able to write again.
 
I'd have to agree completely with Teresa. The times I suffer a block are usually congruent with difficult times in my everyday life. If I'm sitting, staring at my computer screen, watching the incredible blinking cursor, sitting stagnantly exactly five points from the right of my left-hand margin (it usually doesn't prefer this spot, as the cursor has a very hyperactive disposition, and generally speaking only enjoys the moments when it is progressively moving across and down my page) I have to start thinking about what could possibly be wrong. Being that I'm slightly obsessive compulsive, this will sometimes be as simple as washing the few dishes lingering in the sink, vacuuming the floor to eradicate all the nasty little dust particles clogging my thought process, or hitting the top of the desk with a few passes of Pledge, which the desk quite enjoys as it is in its best frame of mind when its surface is sparkling and perfumed with a chemically engineered, but altogether pleasing scent of pine.

There are other times of course, when the issues are much larger and much more difficult to overcome. During these moments in my life I don't try and sit down at my desk to work, but take an active role in solving whatever it is that is ailing me; I read, I discuss a problem I might be having with my wife, I play with my child so as to quell the guilty feeling I sometimes have by spending too much time at my desk, and not enough with my son; or, as is usually the case, I get out of the house and spend time with friends and family, something I don't realize I had been missing until I've returned home from a very fulfilling, very socially stimulating day.

A friend of mine, who is a renowned photographer, once told me that an artist's life is a difficult one as it demands a level of solitude and serenity that none of us could ever dream of having. I'm sure he stole this quote from somewhere, and there are parts of it I disagree with, but all in all some of it does ring true: it's difficult to concentrate when the outside world is fighting vehemently to keep you preoccupied. The only hope you have of staying sane and keeping your mind on the craft is making sure you control your controllables, making sure what you have the power to control is kept under control.
 
Since I've been an active member of Chronicles my writing has been almost non-existant. It's far easier if I am at the computer anyway, for me to simply got onto this forum and not bother. I clearly have no will power but whilst I love Chronicles it does make me quite sad. The problem is that while I am here at my desk I just cannot resist seeing who's posted what and then I break up my flow of writing. I came to this forum over a year ago haven written two novels and with lots of ideas. The novels are still sitting there unedited and I am absolutely no further forward:(
 
Yes, Chronicles can be a huge distraction. That's one problem I try to avoid by refusing to connect my writing computer to the internet, and keeping that computer and this one far, far apart. Not a possibility, of course, if you aren't part of a two computer family.

But if the creativity was flowing, I don't think any distraction could stop you. Sometimes people are blocked and they don't know it. They put it down to distractions or lack of discipline. Other times, as I said, people characterize minor problems as writer's block and so trivialize what can be a very serious matter indeed.
 
You're probably right Teresa, other things have been going on in my life, new job, fair amount of pressure etc and it's easy to blame chronicles but it's probably a symptom.

What's sad is that the creativity was flowing. My problem is that there is so much I want to do, write books, write songs, learn new instrument (or at least play the violin so my dog doesn't have to run and hide for cover), but I work a 60 hour week easliy, and in the end it's easier to just go on chrinicles and just forget everything I haven't started.
 
It may also be more healing at this point just to come to Chronicles and put your troubles aside for a while.

(By the way, Jack, how did the murder mystery project go?)
 
I think I actually increased my writing during...um...events rather than having it disrupted. When I was often stuck in the house, listening to my parents spliting up in a very angry and not at all pleasant way, I'd sit at my computer and write my story, as it would give me a break from things.

Although, at the moment, my degree is certainly getting in the way of my writing. Pssh...typical, eh? :rolleyes::p
 
I have the same problem Jack. I'm an artist and musician as well as an aspiring writer, on top of being a stay-at-home dad. I had to start developing a time budget, bracketing my time so that I could devote a certain amount of it to one particular thing or another. It works for me, and as I said before, being somewhat obsessive, I can keep to these routines with a certain consistency some people might have trouble with.

My wife, who is an R.N. and works 4 to 5 12 hour shifts a week, felt the same as you for a long time, as if she didn't have a free moment to breathe, let alone do anything productive, or relaxing. Something I noticed in her behavior was that she spent so much time lamenting over this that she was wasting any time she could have had to doing nothing at all. After trying to break her of this habit for a long time she sort of worked it out for herself, she changed her sleep schedule and began living a more consistent lifestyle, within her means. Now she wakes up and has a clear mind about what she wants to do for the day, and in general she's a lot happier than she was in the past.
 
The fact that I can bring myself to post again on Chron is a good sign I guess. It's worse when you can't even talk about it...

I've been doing research and that seems to help.
 
It may also be more healing at this point just to come to Chronicles and put your troubles aside for a while.

(By the way, Jack, how did the murder mystery project go?)

It was a roaring success thanks. We got loads of money for charity, and whilst I made it ten times more complicated than I needed to, everyone seemed to have a good time.

My biggest learning curve was probably that 40 odd drunk people are not going to grasp all the threads of a complex murder plot enough to piece together the conclusion. We even had a real life detective playing and he was no where near it.

Really enjoyed Murder by Magic also by the way and it did help with ideas. Not just saying it but really loved Captured in Silver, not just for the storey but it had novel type style to the short storey writing (not sure I've expressed this well - like the style anyway).

Commonmind - I don't know where I'd begin if I had a to be a parent too. Hat's off. My route is disorganised and chaotic. It sounds like I have nothing like your discipline. Maybe understand how your wife was feeling. it's very hard to sleep if you think you've left things unfinished and this becomes a vicious circle as you go to bed late and are less able to do things the next day. Just becuase you are less able to do them, doesn't stop you worrying about them and you don't / can't go to sleep and it just gets worse and worse. I waste hours worrying about the hours I am wasting. Glad you're wife has found an answer. If I'd found one I wouldn't be posting now at almost midnight when I have to be up at 5.45 tomorrow.
 
On a lighter note, I find a hangover completely debiltating.

It seems to be natures way of balancing the fun equation.

Ain't no wrotyng gott dunn 2 dayo
 
The Job and the Writing...

I read all of the posts on this thread. This is a subject where I actually have some answers drawn from personal experience.
First...WORK is NOT the place to write. Home or elsewhere is the place to write. During the day when you are at work, that's when you should be composing your upcoming writing in your head.

This means paying attention to people around you during the day, perhaps incorporating characteristics from them into your characters, or just running the plot through your head as you work. I do the latter a lot.

Then when you get home, you are better prepared to crank out a few hundred quality words. Or more, on good days. :)

My writing life is simple. During the day I run this business in Seattle. It has nothing to do with writing. Evenings and weekends I do the job I REALLY live for...(evil laugh).

If you get a laptop or a notebook, take it somewhere for a couple of days with nice views, fresh air. You'll be amazed at what you come up with. I like to do this a few times a year. Get an inverter so you can charge your computer battery from your car, or bring a generator with a good surge suppressor. Perch yourself on a high, private rock or trail and go for it. Evenings in the tent are excellent, especially in wilderness areas. (Sits in tent, propane lantern, type-type-type. Sleep later when the ideas slow down...crawl into sleeping bag and wake up feeling great and the happiest you've EVER been. Guaranteed.

St Paddy's Day is my birthday. This time I decided to take another of these writing/camping trips. I haven't been anywhere since last October, and to me, this is f-o-r-e-v-e-r.

Why? See Here for the answer. (lol)
 
Teresa, for clarification: I did state that, if you're going through a particularly rough period, working on fiction might not be a good idea, but to turn to writing in a journal, or possibly working on a nonfiction article, or even just doing research and scribbling down notes on what you read with that, and the thoughts that come to you -- anything to keep the writing going, at least a little bit. It's not necessary that it be polished writing, but something to keep exercising those muscles, so to speak. It's not a matter of "tricking" yourself, or any of that; simply of keeping the mind as limber as possible. This can include writing letters to people, as well.

If you're doing any of the latter, then there isn't the pressure that it be "good writing"... just that you're keeping active. It helps in several ways: it does help (even when you're not aware of it) to keep you from losing ground; it can also help distract the mind from problems a bit and allow you to approach the problem solving with a fresher perspective; it can provide you with a certain amount of recreation, as well as allowing you to get your thoughts down on paper in a less restricted fashion, which in turn may help to clarify in your own mind what the problems you are facing are (and therefore may help you to find a solution more readily); if you're writing letters, sometimes it helps to have that outside contact, as well -- you're venting a bit of the frustration and the angst you're going through, and may feel the support (even when writing) of the other person there... but all of these also, as said, keep you writing as well. It's not formal writing, necessarily, and it allows the mind more leeway than structured fiction (or even nonfiction, if you choose one of the other methods) but it does exercise those talents so that, when you do go back to it, you find it much easier to slip back into the routine of writing more formally. And that, in turn, makes the daunting task of getting back to it once whatever situation it was is settled much less daunting, because -- often on an unconscious level -- you've been producing better work than you may have been aware in the interim, and looking back over it may be struck by how much better it really is... which can be a tremendous boost at a time when it's needed most.

Being someone who also suffers from clinical depression betimes... sometimes quite severely, and in the case mentioned above, struggling daily with suicidal ideation for a prolonged period, so this wasn't anything mild we're talking here ... I stand by my statements, because I know from experience they really do work. But I also know not to expect myself to necessarily turn out formal writing -- but to nonetheless write, as part of fighting the depression, if nothing else. It was, in all truth, part of what kept me alive in such a spot.
 
Being someone who also suffers from clinical depression betimes... sometimes quite severely, and in the case mentioned above, struggling daily with suicidal ideation for a prolonged period, so this wasn't anything mild we're talking here ... I stand by my statements, because I know from experience they really do work. But I also know not to expect myself to necessarily turn out formal writing -- but to nonetheless write, as part of fighting the depression, if nothing else. It was, in all truth, part of what kept me alive in such a spot.

Puts into perspective my petty quibbles with my employer... I'm sure I'll get back into wirting soon enough. I always feel that even if I've only posted a couple of posts here, at least I've written something.

Robert: I'm not sure if your post was in response to mine, but if so I think you misunderstood. I never meant I had troubles writing at work - I have never and would never think about writing when I'm supposed to be working; in fact, that'd be really hard in my line of employment. I meant that issues at work were affecting my writing...
 

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