RAH Reading Group - The Cat Who Walks Through Walls

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Well, now that we've kicked off our discussion regarding Puppet Masters, it is probably a good time to firmly select TCWWTW as our next one. The poll has been up for a while now, and it seems almost impossible for one of the others to kick TCWWTW off first place. So if you want to participate in the next one start digging out or searching for your copy of The Cat Who Walks Through Walls (if you're not already half way done reading it!)
 
Did you check out the "more" button as well, TT
I like the cleanness of the Brazil one, but the Polish one??
 
Did you check out the "more" button as well, TT
I like the cleanness of the Brazil one, but the Polish one??
Missed it completely Pyan...thanks. Didn't help slow the boil though! The Polish one is brutal...appears they probably had no idea what the book was about and just figured "It's Heinlein, put something spacey on there!"
 
When is this suppose to start? I saw a copy of the book coming back in the library early next week.
 
When is this suppose to start? I saw a copy of the book coming back in the library early next week.
We've just got going on Puppets, so it should be a bit yet. Today's post was just to kind of formalize our choice for our next one. Definately grab it and join in...might be a tricky one for your first...but with the whole group reading it along side you, I am confident you won't get turned off Heinlein by it.

Hey Pyan...that book cover museum is what motivated my search for all printings in the first place. I spent a LONG time trying to hunt down all the covers in there...even found a few not posted during my hunt. Eventually gave it up as a ridiculous cause. Haven't been back there in some time...thanks for the reminder.
 
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We seem to be drying up a bit on the Puppet Masters...anybody have thoughts on setting a date for TCWWTW? People still interested, or did Puppet Masters give you your fill for now?
 
How about tomorrow to wind down PM, and start TCWWTW on Sunday? (allowing for time-zones, of course - Sunday'll be here sooner for some!)
 
The way these generally run is one a month. That allows for people who have lots of other irons in the fire to still read the book and be in time for the main discussion, yet isn't space too far apart for those who are avid fans of something.

Of course, with short stories, that's a different thing entirely. But with a novel or a collection/anthology, it's probably best to have a bit of time between -- especially given that some of the people on here are going to be tackling books for two or more "reading groups" at a time.
 
Well, now that we've kicked off our discussion regarding Puppet Masters, it is probably a good time to firmly select TCWWTW as our next one. The poll has been up for a while now, and it seems almost impossible for one of the others to kick TCWWTW off first place. So if you want to participate in the next one start digging out or searching for your copy of The Cat Who Walks Through Walls (if you're not already half way done reading it!)


I finished rereading it, a few months back. I really enjoy the story, I have to say that Richard Ames is one of the good if not great RAH charters. I also have to abmit I would love to have a cat like Pixel.
 
First, I am definitely game for continuing. Second, as a bit of a compromise, I suggest we start TCWWTW next Saturday. This gives those who haven’t finished some lead-time before we start and next Saturday is almost next month.

 
I am also game for this whenever we start this.

I will make time to read Heinlein.
 
Well...first of all what did you think of the way he divided the book up into the "typical" Heinlein action in the first two thirds and then the multiverse theme in the final third? One thing I was thinking as I read it is that if one hadn't read a few of his other works (Moon is a Harsh Mistress; Number of the Beast; Methusaleh's Children; even Rolling Stones and Strangers would have helped) that this one would be hard to appreciate. Razor, you mentioned you haven't read some of these, atleast in a while, could you still appreciate the final third?
Another question...what did you guys think about Richard? Was his individuality and eternal skepticism over the top for you, or did you appreciate it? How about the relationship between Richard and Gwen/Hazel...believable? How about in comparison to Sam and Mary?
 
It was almost three different books to me. The first part was chock-full of nice quotes, but I thought the story line was a bit sophomoric. I thought the story quality improved immediately in the second part. It was as if he was just going through the motions to set the stage in part one (and distracting us with all the juicy quotes) and then really started the story telling in part two. Then part three took a different tack. I found parts of it interesting, but I didn’t think it held together as a whole. I read Methuselah’s Children earlier this year, but the rest of the connected works were quite a while back for me. TCWWTW jogged my memory enough to get some of the references and connections, but I may have liked it more if I had read the others more recently.

As for the characters, I liked Richard just fine. He may have come across as a bit shallow or flat in a more developed story, but he worked fine here. I thought the Gwen/Hazel character had a lot more depth than Mary did. The interplay between them was one of the more entertaining parts of the book. They reminded me of Nick and Nora in The Thin Man movies.
 
I noticed a huge change right when Gwen started trying to convice Richard that she was Hazel and from there out. Where did you see the the other break or change in style?

You really need Number of the Beast to flesh out the ship called Gay and her capabilities. That one would help with Hilda, Jake, Deety, and Zeb, along with his multiverse theory too. Without that one in mind, I would see the final part of the book as you did.

I enjoyed Richard and Gwen too, an obvious example of his uber-capable characters...even with his amputation. I've heard theories that Richard and Gwen were supposed to be overstated representations of Heinlein and his wife...Richard Ames (RA: Robert Anson)...Gwen Novak (GN representing Ginny which is how he referred to his wife). I normally would laugh at these reaches, but after all of the black hats in The Number of the Beast being anagrams of his name and his World As Myth theme...maybe its not such a big stretch after all.

What did you think of Bill? Was he purely a plant to allow him to express his political views? If so, what did you think of those? If not, what was the point of Bill's character? Was he supposed to be purely on that plane, or was he supposed to be a member of the other "Time Manipulator" groups?

What did you think of Richard's thoughts on homosexuality and plural marriage, etc.? What do you think Heinlein's motive was for including this stuff? Did he have a point...or was it purely to titillate the reader?

In hindsight, I'm really wishing I had reread a bunch of Heinlein's other works before pulling this one out again. I wonder how many references to other works I missed beyond the ones that I caught, just because I haven't read them in a while.
 

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