The Most Underrated film of all Time?

The Wanderer said:
No, Mate, Critics were divided
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Not when it first came out they weren't.

Perhaps you need to learn more about cinema
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A movie that was supposedly finished at 5 1/2 hours was run once at just over four hours had its general release at 154 minutes and is now only available in a 219 minute version. Please expand my knowledge of cinema and explain that that's how masterpieces are made. :rolleyes:

BTW, I knew all that. What was news to me and kind of surprised me is that the Wiki entry talks about how the 154 minute version (the cinematic release) actually contains scenes and shots from scenes the longer, currently available version doesn't. Huh? Is this the original "Greedo shoots first?"
 
that old guy said:
Not when it first came out they weren't.
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Indeed that's true, the reception was 90% negative in the US and 60-70% negative elsewhere



A movie that was supposedly finished at 5 1/2 hours was run once at just over four hours had its general release at 154 minutes and is now only available in a 219 minute version.Please expand my knowledge of cinema and explain that that's how masterpieces are made. :rolleyes:
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No, not always, but think Lean's 'Lawrence of Arabia', Sergei Bondarchuks 'War & Peace', Von Stroheim's 'Greed' (which received dimilar notices to HG)
Kurosawa's 'The Sevens Samurai', Coppola's 'Apocalypse Now'

BTW, I knew all that. What was news to me and kind of surprised me is that the Wiki entry talks about how the 154 minute version (the cinematic release) actually contains scenes and shots from scenes the longer, currently available version doesn't. Huh? Is this the original "Greedo shoots first?"
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Yes it's taken by MGM (Notriously incompetant at these kind of things) and recut it.

I am not trying to say that it's a perfect film, but if you look at the film with innocent eyes and can appreciate good cinematography (Vilmos Zsigmond), Joan Carelli's Ethnic styled Music, and it has many beautiful scenes and set pieces

Disputed though the film is now

Cimino's problem was he couldn't make the film ealier, say between 67-75, Jaws and Star Wars had changed the directon of movie-making and had directed audiences towards less challenging fayre...
 
Nonsense the shark was a very three dimensional character. I felt his angst. He wasn't eating because he was hungry you know. It was a metaphor for human consumption of the natural world.

Next thing you'll be telling me that Tango and Cash wasn't the greatest cop film ever made.
 
andrew.v.spencer said:
Nonsense the shark was a very three dimensional character. I felt his angst. He wasn't eating because he was hungry you know. It was a metaphor for human consumption of the natural world.

Next thing you'll be telling me that Tango and Cash wasn't the greatest cop film ever made.
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Yes,it was. Here are some other goodies:
Jaws III
The Punisher
Revenge of the Nerds
40 days,brilliant
Halloween 27
Shows I've got taste
 
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Seemingly banal/mainstream film which is actually a PKD/Carpenter style mindflick.
Dunno why no-one else sees it that way
 
Rodders said:
I always felt that Disney's John Carter of Mars was hugely underrated. Many of the comments I've seen on the Chrons are always positive.
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This is a terrific film and should have been the beginning of a successful film franchise .
 
Reign of Fire 2002 This is a surprisingly good film.
The Time Machine 2002. When I first saw it , I didn't like it, but over time and repeated viewings , ive gotten to like this film . Yes it a remake , but's it's a very good film .:cool:
 
Rodders said:
I always felt that Disney's John Carter of Mars was hugely underrated. Many of the comments I've seen on the Chrons are always positive.
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I watched it again recently and thought more favourably about it.

Tomorrowland. I love this film. It's a refreshing change from the constant barrage of neo-apocalyptic films we tend to get.
 
One from about 15 years ago, Dragon Wars.

You get hordes of black armoured knights riding dragons into the city, accompanied by dinosaur sized things that fire burning oil at helicopters and military jets.

They're battling the police and the US army amongst the skyscrapers, with columns of Frontline battle tanks getting broiled.

Brilliant IMO
 
Danny McG said:
One from about 15 years ago, Dragon Wars.

You get hordes of black armoured knights riding dragons into the city, accompanied by dinosaur sized things that fire burning oil at helicopters and military jets.

They're battling the police and the US army amongst the skyscrapers, with columns of Frontline battle tanks getting broiled.

Brilliant IMO
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Just saw some battle scenes on youtube. This one's going on my watch list this weekend Danny!
 
Bren G said:
John Carpenter's 1988 film - They Live starring Roddy Piper. The epic alleyway fight scene is just one jewel in the crown of this legendary sci-fi film.
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Really enjoyed that one, the fight was class -all over not wanting to wear a pair of sunglasses (when the foot goes down, it goes down!). Feel the same about Into the Mouth of Madness. The information superhighway says it got over 50% of a full quantity of critical yolkibobs, but it seemed to just die a death at the time for what I reckon was a class piece of work.
 
Apparently it's in the Guinness book of records as the longest fight scene. (Well. it was at the time.)

South Park did an awesome parody with their Cripple fight.

They Live had a lot to say about consumerism and I think a remake would do well now. Especially when you add social media into the mix.
 
How about The Silent Flute, written by Bruce Lee. Its a magical film full of twists turns and jumps and I haven't seen it for years. Part of it actually featured in a pop song.
 
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