yeah, that was a fairly comprehensive list, the larth green/brown one is the one I could almost remember. since MHoP contradicted so much of her previous ideas I seem to have blocked most of it out. I do remember her misnaming litoh as monarth, at least they were both bronzes, and both hatched at Benden, ummmm okay, did I hear someone here talk about the queen deaths originating at fort Weyr (instead of high reaches as was described in dragonquest), or was it in all the weyrs of pern? this year has been too long.