what happened???

[fingy773]

what happened 2 gatis in the conclave of shadows series and after did he die or just isint mentioned

 

[Fake Vencar]

Gathis is the small dragon thing isn't he? *the name slips away yet again*

He is mentioned after that in the first two books in the Dark War series. However, he seemed to have disappeared after William died, so Pug mentions that he misses him

 

[nixie]

Gathis was Marcos' servant on Sorcers Isle, not really sure what happened to him.

Fantus was the fire drake

 

[Fake Vencar]

Gathis was Marcos' servant on Sorcers Isle, not really sure what happened to him.

Fantus was the fire drake

Oh dear. Sorry about that, always get confused.

Yep, nothing is said about him in Conclave and beyond. I have a sneaky feeling he is in the Dasati homeworld with Macros or Feist has totally forgotten

 

[nixie]

Gathais fate is starting to niggle me now

 

[Fake Vencar]

I've typed him in two search engines and nothing comes up about where he goes. He definitely isn't in the books as i have just read them again. I believe he might have gone looking for him as he was the agent of Sarig after all and Macros' laundry man. Or he could be on some mission for the Conclave?

 

[nixie]

I wonder if he went back to his homeworld? I think he was last mentioned in Serpent Wars?

 

[Fake Vencar]

Last time I remember him was at the end of Shards of a Broken Crown, when Pug and the rest of his merry band were forming the Conclave. He could have gone anywhere

 

[fingy773]

yeah that was the last i read as wellabout him thats why i asked

 

[Fake Vencar]

I've got a fairly bad idea but all the same... what happens if Gathis was Varen? One of his kind, rescued by Macros then disappears after Serpentwar. Varen suddenly shows up and knew why to attack Sorcerers Island.

Or have i just posted the worst idea in the world?

 

[woodsman]

yeah probably

Actually I think gathis was the last of a a race of Goblin-like creatures ( similar to the relationship between the Eledhel and the Moredhel) who worshipped Sarig. He worked with Macros because he was an agent/tool/avatar of Sarig. At the end of the serpentwar he helps form the conclave of shadows as a group of agents who will carry out the work of Sarig and fight on behalf of the 'good' gods. Don't have a clue what became of him, except that I presumed he would helpl council Pug etc, and possibly teach others his arts, rather like the firesinger thing did to Robert de Lysle.

I've a feeling his home world is mentioned somewhere as being destroyed though so doubt he can return there. Perhaps he's just hidden away somewhere in the bowels of the conclave carrying out some research or just being him.

 

[Fake Vencar]

yeah probably

Actually I think gathis was the last of a a race of Goblin-like creatures ( similar to the relationship between the Eledhel and the Moredhel) who worshipped Sarig. He worked with Macros because he was an agent/tool/avatar of Sarig. At the end of the serpentwar he helps form the conclave of shadows as a group of agents who will carry out the work of Sarig and fight on behalf of the 'good' gods. Don't have a clue what became of him, except that I presumed he would helpl council Pug etc, and possibly teach others his arts, rather like the firesinger thing did to Robert de Lysle.

I've a feeling his home world is mentioned somewhere as being destroyed though so doubt he can return there. Perhaps he's just hidden away somewhere in the bowels of the conclave carrying out some research or just being him.

More than likely. Macros has gone from Midkemia, so Gathis isn't a main character anymore: Feist doesn't need him anymore at the moment. Could he be in the Castle?

 

[fingy773]

castle???

 

[Fake Vencar]

castle???

The castle up on Sorcerer's Island, where Pug first found Macro's library in the Riftwar. Even though Gathis had been down at Villa Beata, i still think he could be looking after the castle.

 

[fingy773]

k

 

[Fake Vencar]

How about Gathis being one of the students that are studying the Talnoy in Novindus?

 

[Kulgan]

Not a bad idea, but I think the idea of him still being on Sorcer's Isle and looking after the castle is a better one.

Regardless of where Pug and Macros are, I always got the feeling that Gathis was committed to staying on the isle and maintaining things there - like keeping the scary lights burning in the castle, warding off unwanted visitors, etc. Would like to see Ray bring him back into a story once in awhile tho, just to let us know he's still alive...

 

[Fake Vencar]

Not a bad idea, but I think the idea of him still being on Sorcer's Isle and looking after the castle is a better one.

Regardless of where Pug and Macros are, I always got the feeling that Gathis was committed to staying on the isle and maintaining things there - like keeping the scary lights burning in the castle, warding off unwanted visitors, etc. Would like to see Ray bring him back into a story once in awhile tho, just to let us know he's still alive...

Knowing Ray, he's either got two choices locked in his mind: 1). He'll return Gathis to the plot when Macros returns, if this is what he does. 2). He's forgotten all about him.

 

[woodsman]

Possibly two. which is a shame Gathis always had a quite likeable personality. In many ways I supose he was mainly a background character used as a plot device to explain Macros's vastly superior magical knowledge and also to direct Pug etc to Macros where possible.

He prossibly just tends the shrine to Sarig that is concealed on the Isle or possibly his God has given him another task, he served Sarig not macros although weather Ray adheres to this or not is another matter.

 

[Cayal]

Gathis is a goblin if I am not mistaken?