Time Travel

[PERCON]

Hi, Percon here again.

Paradoxes could prove useful or utterly fatal. If someone could actually travel back in time and get someone else to invent time travel early, then when the time traveller goes back to the time he came from, the world could have moved on for the better and his time machine will be out of date by however many thousand years. This means someone could, for example, clone a lot of humans then travel forward in time and see the clones when they're of the right age to train for, work or even war. It is a daunting prospect that someone could travel into someone's past and kill them off, whilst that person knew nothing of it the 'present'. I don't think time travel is a good idea personally, although it sounds intriguing if only one person had a time machine, hmmmm.

By the way the mention of the meteor earlier in this thread may not be completly true, although NASA are looking into it. Keep checking the news!

PerCon

 

[Hypes]

So we turned you around this quickly?

 

[Lacedaemonian]

I saw a DeLorean speed past me the other day, then whoosh it disappeared leaving a trail of flaming tyre tracks.

 

[Hypes]

Oooh.

 

[PERCON]

I think we should all think of time travel as something magical, since it's much more complicated than we could understand.

I'll leave with a question,

If I gave you the option of travelling anywhere in time, but once you got there you couldn't go anywhere else, where would you go?

PERCON

p.s I think human curiosity is fascinating, travelling in time, hehe, whatever next...

 

[AmonRa]

well not to the future because u dont no whats there, you could appear on an earth with no air and promtly die. and i no that the past sucks so im happy here but if i was to go anywhere then i'd go to the time of hitler and assasinate him

 

[PERCON]

lol. Interesting. Assasinate Hitler. That would actually save a lot of lives, I like that idea.

Personally though, I'd leave time as it is and history as it is. By changing the end date of the war many things may have been different now. Well by changing anything in the past today could be a very different place. Of course the change would be invisible to our minds because we will be used to it. After all it would have happened decades, if not centuries ago, we wouldn't know any different.

I'd actually leave the war alone, the casualties suffered in both World Wars should teach all the manics out there that trying to become famous or well-known for killing innocent people is NOT the way forward, for anyone!

I'd like to leave on that note, lol

Ah wait, another question,

If I gave you the option of going back into your past to change something in your life knowing it would alter you and the world around you, would you do it?

PERCON

 

[PERCON]

http://www.johntitor.com/

A time traveller from the year 2036...

... Believe what you want.


PERCON

 

[lucifer_principle]

Basically if I walk from one end of my study to the other I would be technically travelling to the future, and if I walk back to my initial position I will be travelling back in time(as long as i take the same space). From this experiment it looks as though time travel is utterly impossible, at least not without a parallel universe; two study rooms, that way I may set my clocks in each room as I wish. Personally I think creating a fully functioning human being is more feasible than travelling through time. Unless time is the divide between two universes. But then time is space, which is infinite. Maybe we should call it travelling through space or space travelling for clearification purposes. Just hope no one ends up in a 2 dimentional space.

 

[dustinzgirl]

For one I do not believe time travel is physically possible, nor would it be morally viable. The option to go back in time and effect choices made, lessons not learned, in the hopes of creating a better life would be unimaginable-for better or worse, with a 50/50 shot at either. Not a chance I would take. Also, imagine the germs you would carry back in time if you went backwards. We have all been innoculated, and carry germs and viruses never heard of thousands of years ago. All that aside, in my research I have come to the opinion that time travel is simply impossible. Time does not exist in a finite dimension, I think it is more like an illusion.

But, were it possible, I would go back and slap the hoo ha out of a lot of people. I would also like to go back to the time when my kids were infants, before tv and nintendo and school and especially, before they could talk!

 

[PERCON]

The past doesn't exist and the future doesn't yet exist so travelling to either is impossible.

PERCON

 

[cyborg_cinema]

...were it possible, I would go back and slap the hoo ha out of a lot of people.

...a new item has been added to my time travel to do list.

 

[Slider1]

I am fascinated by time travel. I would like to travel back to my teens and right injustices that happened to me. I would also like to watch a military battle from a safe distance and Spartan warriors training.

When would you like to travel to and why?

Will be quite good for your history lessons?

 

[Rosemary]

Will be quite good for your history lessons?

That's a great idea - make a change from searching through history books!

OBTW cyborg - is that new item still on your time travel to do list?

 

[Tim Bond]

i would like 'now' unedited, fully understood and clear - no bondage of past memories, false constructs of perceptual filtering set up by my beleifs, no apprehension for the future - just full on 'now', in the moment at every moment. perfect mind perfect movement.

just the void

like all tao, zen ect... not chained to petty sensation, emotions, false intellect - that would be 'really' being 'now' - to become desireless and spontaniously obtain truth of existance in mind and action.

but, since someone already made a time machine earlier in the postings and plans to make lots of cash - wait for me - i want to see (get to use) a viking sword in action - i might even cheat and help them establish a colony on america so they could do all the plundering, killing, and land-ownership first - just to see what happens.

forget greenland guys - keep going and just communicate more - greenland ain't really so nice and green if you havn't noticed by now.

 

[mikeo]

lol. Interesting. Assasinate Hitler. That would actually save a lot of lives, I like that idea.

I seem to remember a time travel based exactly on this - the Hitler he encountered was much more reasonable and sane that the Hitler he was expecting, a real humanist, but he killed him, knowing full well from his history lessons that Hitler turned out to be an unstable lunatic. The last things the assasin heard after achieving his goal (as he was caught, and killed, I think) was two senior nazis talking of how they couldn't admit Hitler was dead, so they were going to replace him with his twin (or clone, I can't remember). Only thing was, they were worried that his twin was both aggressive and unstable...

If I gave you the option of going back into your past to change something in your life knowing it would alter you and the world around you, would you do it?
PERCON

Something in my past? If I were to really do something, it'd be to get back in time, and somehow explain to myself in university that I should drop out, and either create a search engine and portal, or join that new company "Google."

(I was in uni from 93-97)

Mind you, who knows what would happen if I really met myself? It's infeasible really, because as soon as I change my path, my future self likely wouldn't get the same opportunity. And if he did, what would he choose? And then who'd come back to tell me about Google? Gah - this is the problem with time travel - it just doesn't hold together logically.

 

[AmonRa]

Something in my past? If I were to really do something, it'd be to get back in time, and somehow explain to myself in university that I should drop out, and either create a search engine and portal, or join that new company "Google."

(I was in uni from 93-97)

Mind you, who knows what would happen if I really met myself? It's infeasible really, because as soon as I change my path, my future self likely wouldn't get the same opportunity. And if he did, what would he choose? And then who'd come back to tell me about Google? Gah - this is the problem with time travel - it just doesn't hold together logically.

it would only work if you met yourself from the future, was told to join google, joined google, then went back in time and told ur self to join google

you can't change your own path because it's allready been paved but you can go back in time to another dimmension and change an identical version of ur self's path

 

[dreamwalker]

The past doesn't exist and the future doesn't yet exist so travelling to either is impossible.

PERCON

^^thats rubbish

According to physics time exists just as the other 3 dimentions we are currently aware of today. Things simply don't just exist for the specific moment that you (a being who can only understand time to be as such) percieve to do. If you could do some research on time, then you'd actually find out how magically complex it is, and why many scientists are very causious of making comments such as that^^

 

[Quokka]

^^thats rubbish

According to physics time exists just as the other 3 dimentions we are currently aware of today. Things simply don't just exist for the specific moment that you (a being who can only understand time to be as such) percieve to do. If you could do some research on time, then you'd actually find out how magically complex it is, and why many scientists are very causious of making comments such as that^^

The current flavour of the month seems to be seven dimensions (though its about due to change by now) . It's been proven by experiments, not theory, that time is relative and as such travel forward (according to an observer) must be possible, backwards is going to remain debatable for a time yet.

So far I still like the theories discussed in Benford's Timescape, Not that alot of people smarter than me wouldn't disagree....

 

[PERCON]

I know that time is one of the most complex things out there, I never said it wasn't, so even what the great scientists of today are saying nowadays could, in decades to come, be wrong.

I respect your opinion that my explanation is rubbish Dreamwalker, really I do. After reading it again I agree with you, it is rubbish since I have no firm understanding of time and neither does anyone else on this planet, believe what you want, it just proves people still have faith in science (which I'm glad about), still have hope that we can defy anything we come up against.

What if we can't ever manipulate time or grasp a firm understanding of it? What if for once humanity has no way of making a break-through to a new area of understanding?

Just a thought...

PERCON