Least Favorite Character

[TK-421]

Maybe you should take it a bit easy on someone understandably new to these boards and not use degrading terms like "bub". Besides, fish tends to leave an unsavory taste in my mouth.

Oh, Prav, lighten up a bit. There was no malice intended on my part and I was just having fun with you. I now know your limits as we all do have them. My Forum pals who have known me around these parts for a while now, can vouch that I am as gentle as a kitten. You may also know, that "bub" like "hoser" are compliments here in the great white north. But I admire your enthousiasm and willingness to share. I'll use a Tuna the next time

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[lauren20062001]

That is my main problem with Littlefinger, he and I think Tywin are behind pretty much everything bad that happens. And for all the love that he claims to have for Cat, he put her through a lot of pain.

 

[Lady of Winterfell]

I don't think anyone should really hate Theon. He's a character to be pitied not hated. He's really not worthy of hatred.

I never said I hated Theon. The list is for your least favorite characters, not characters you hate.

I also understand his reasonings for his actions, and that he didn't really fit in anywhere, with the Ironmen or the Starks. But that doesn't mean I can't include him on my list.

 

[Shacklock]

That is my main problem with Littlefinger, he and I think Tywin are behind pretty much everything bad that happens. And for all the love that he claims to have for Cat, he put her through a lot of pain.

Well, seems to be more an Obession than Love. Hence the pain.
And it couldent have been much of an emotional attraction beacuse he clearly wants Sansa xD

 

[Koopa]

1) Catelyn Stark - also known as miss Whine and miss Prejudice.
2) Joffrey Baratheon - I just want to beat the cr@p out of the little tyke.
3) Sansa Stark - one word : Greatest traitor of them all even if she is a little girl.
4) the fat Robert Baratheon - Useless sack of swine, especially sad since his more illustrious past.
5) Viserys Targaryen - for the same reason as Joffrey, equal obnoxious brat meets cruelty.

 

[Boaz]

I don't hate Theon, but I can see if someone does.

Theon betrayed Robb's trust. Theon murdered many Stark loyalists and friends. Theon spread the lie that he executed Bran and Rickon.

He is a liar, a lech, a deceiver, a betrayer, a murderer, a raper, and an ass. He's heartless, faithless, unintelligent, and ungrateful. He whines, moans, brags, and boasts. He expects people to love him because he's Theon. He's basically Cersei without the talent, looks, guts, or money.

 

[Lady of Winterfell]

Well said Boaz.

 

[vervain_ashe]

I don't hate Theon, but I can see if someone does.

Theon betrayed Robb's trust. Theon murdered many Stark loyalists and friends. Theon spread the lie that he executed Bran and Rickon.

He is a liar, a lech, a deceiver, a betrayer, a murderer, a raper, and an ass. He's heartless, faithless, unintelligent, and ungrateful. He whines, moans, brags, and boasts. He expects people to love him because he's Theon. He's basically Cersei without the talent, looks, guts, or money.

Boaz, you're spot on!

 

[viZion]

I never said I hated Theon. The list is for your least favorite characters, not characters you hate.

I also understand his reasonings for his actions, and that he didn't really fit in anywhere, with the Ironmen or the Starks. But that doesn't mean I can't include him on my list.

You almost sound offended because my post didn't agree with yours. You're not the only person to list Theon in this thread .

I don't think that deep down Theon is that bad of a guy. His lack of identity is pretty much the entire reason for all aspects of his personality. Basically, he's trying to fit in in every place but never really can for reasons I stated above. He's no angel but I certainly can't hate him for it. I can see how people might not like him because he betrayed the Starks. Why not hate him for "betraying" the Greyjoys by fighting by Robb's side or even for saving Bran from the wildlings? See? Those aren't things a Greyjoy would do. The guy just couldn't do anything without betraying one of the two sides he belonged to. Poor guy.

Let's see...who do I dislike...

1) Joffrey...doesn't have a single redeeming quality. Has to hide behind mommy's skirts for everything. He even screams, "Mother!" when he cuts himself on the Iron Throne in Sansa's last chapter in ACOK. What a wuss.

2) Cersei...she's just pure evil and I hate some of the mistakes she makes. She really made a mess of a lot of things until Tyrion showed up to save her...not that she appreciated any of his help at all . Of course, without Tyrion she proceeds to screw up again. I just can't stand her.

3) Bran... he's just a boring kid who whines too much. Yes, I understand his chapters are important. No, I won't like him because of it.

4) Viserys... such a sad, sad excuse for a man.

5) Melisandre... she's just one weird chick. Never liked her.

 

[Koopa]

I don't hate Theon, but I can see if someone does.

Theon betrayed Robb's trust. Theon murdered many Stark loyalists and friends. Theon spread the lie that he executed Bran and Rickon.

He is a liar, a lech, a deceiver, a betrayer, a murderer, a raper, and an ass. He's heartless, faithless, unintelligent, and ungrateful. He whines, moans, brags, and boasts. He expects people to love him because he's Theon. He's basically Cersei without the talent, looks, guts, or money.

In theon's defense, he did not get much choice from jis father in the initial betraying, after that he just wanted to prove himself like many boys would to his father. His plan to take Winterfell wasn't bad, excepting the fact that he did not have enough manpower to keep it, he should've just sacked it, but grandeur got to him.

Also Theon as of yet has not raped anyone. that said, much of what you said is true, however Theon is most definitely not a second Cersei, his character is totally different even though they share atributes.

 

[Falsteed]

3) Sansa Stark - one word : Greatest traitor of them all even if she is a little girl.

How can you hold an ignorant little girls prejudices and illusions against her? And besides, Arya will be reunited with Nymeria and I will probably cry.

 

[Koopa]

she was 11 or older at the time, not 6 years old.
An 11 year old girl is more then old enough to be held responsible for her actions, her brain has developed more then enough to know and comprehend what exactly she was doing. The fact that she is rather slow (up until now at least) does not excuse her. She knew full well what she was doing and got what she deserved. She is a traitor to her own family who where always good to her. So yes, i can hold it against her, and be among my least favorite characters for it, though there are plenty of other reasons.

 

[Rohan]

Theon Greyjoy always irritated me. He had, for me, none of the power of some of the series' villains, nor the likeable qualities of the 'heroes'. He always struck me as a petty twerp with a cruel streak.

Sansa bugged me a good deal early on, too; but as time went on, and we saw her character develop somewhat, she grew on me. Now I tolerate her with mild curiosity - a big improvement, I assure you.

Catelyn Stark could grate a little, too. And her current...disposition...isn't helping any. She plays the role of wooden, put-upon martyr too well for my taste. Besides, she gave Jon a hard time, so she has a black mark next to her name for me.

I like characters with charisma; whether they are good, evil, or ambiguous. Characters with style and power. Conversely, characters with none of these qualities tend to irk me.

 

[Boaz]

Kiwi, I agree that Theon's life has not been easy. Balon sold him to Robert and Eddard to save his own life... then Balon blames Theon for this. Theon has had unfair events happen to him, but he's chosen to respond with vengeance, treachery and depravity.

I would consider his last night with Kyra as rape. It seems he beat and bit her while she cried and screamed. To me that seems against her will. She may have gone willingly, but I doubt she wanted to be abused.

 

[TK-421]

I feel pity for Theon and I know he would hate me for it. Pity is the last thing he wants and what he really seeks is respect, especially from his family. I don't hate him and hope he will redeem himself. I think Asha will help Theon and he will, in the end, do something that will help the Starks.

As for Sansa, I too disliked her at first, then felt really bad for the crappy way that Joff treated his dear bethroted. I was happy she married Tyrion because it was the only way she could survive long enough to escape. The new Sansa (courtesy of her time in King's Landing and some tutoring by Littlefinger) is very intriguing. As heir to Winterfell, she is bound for being a very important piece of the final puzzle.

 

[Koopa]

I forgot about the last night with her, i only remembered he never forced a woman into his bed. If i recall he was influenced somewhat by the weirwood. Even so Theon is indeed not a great man, a man whom has done many bad/evil things, however he aint that bad as many other characters among wich the more loveable dwarf. Theon is a bit of an @ss though it is true, still i cant help but enjoy reading his chapters, his thought pattern just make me laughs.

 

[cape_royds]

Re: Theon

He is a liar, a lech, a deceiver, a betrayer, a murderer, a raper, and an ass. He's heartless, faithless, unintelligent, and ungrateful. He whines, moans, brags, and boasts. He expects people to love him because he's Theon. He's basically Cersei without the talent, looks, guts, or money.

Hear, Hear!

Theon's arrogance puts him out of the reach of pity, and his sadism puts him out of the reach of mercy.

I don't know about unintelligent, though. Theon had considerable cunning. Even Asha admitted that his capture of Winterfell was quite nicely done--although his vain attempt to hold it as his own princely seat was absurd.

 

[cape_royds]

Sansa Stark: the making of a Femme Fatale

As for Sansa, I too disliked her at first, then felt really bad for the crappy way that Joff treated his dear bethroted. I was happy she married Tyrion because it was the only way she could survive long enough to escape. The new Sansa (courtesy of her time in King's Landing and some tutoring by Littlefinger) is very intriguing. As heir to Winterfell, she is bound for being a very important piece of the final puzzle.

I am afraid Sansa is going to become quite a nasty piece of work by the time the tale is done. Imagine the seductive wiles of Cersei combined with the Petyr's genius for intrigue.

Sansa has had every illusion, every standard of decency, torn away from her one by one. She will learn that power is everything and that lying is good. There are no true knights--and no true ladies, either.

Sansa has "been taken to school," and she will have learned her lessons well. Watch out!

 

[Falsteed]

An 11 year old girl is more then old enough to be held responsible for her actions, her brain has developed more then enough to know and comprehend what exactly she was doing. The fact that she is rather slow (up until now at least) does not excuse her.

She was caught up in the court, severely delusioned, and had no notion that people could be so cruel. It seems absurd to me that you are holding her accountable for her selfishness and geniune ignorance of the world, saying that an 11 year old girl should be able to comprehend everything as it is and not be misguided by emotion. You also seem to be accusing her of Eddards death; if anything, Ned is to blame for not taking control of the situation when he had the chance. He knew the nature of the game.

I hate how she acted earlier in the series, but I can't hate a selfish child.

 

[lauren20062001]

Sansa still did betray her father for Joff...that's just wrong. I think Catelyn and Ned probably raised her to know better than that. Being in "love" doesn't excuse the offense.