Small part in Dany 3rd in ADWD

[Syphon of Oor-Tael]

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that the Mummer's Dragon is indeed Aurane Waters, who is used by either queen (that is, Marjory or Cersei) to pretend to be a Targaryen and back the house of whomever put him forward as a Targaryen. While Cersei does compare him to a Targaryen a few times, I believe that she's too caught up in her own madness to come up with this plan. So, I'm postulating that the "Targaryens" will be backing the Tyrel, only to be ruthlessly crushed along with the fakers when Dany hears of this and comes to Westeros, only to find fakes running the show.

 

[Boaz]

Syphon, alright. But I'd surmise that Littlefinger is behind Waters, not the Tyrells nor Lannisters. Remember that Littlefinger wanted certain Targaryen tapestries from Cersei? The value of pictures are their ability to convey visual details of the past... i.e. Targaryen physical traits.

Why would anyone send a fake Targaryen to Dany? Political power. If someone could convince Dany that Aegon was alive, then Aegon would be the real king, not Dany.

 

[Ghost of Harrenhal]

Reznak mo Reznak is one of the Meerenese nobles who defected to Dany's cause. He stinks of perfume, in fact, Dany thinks that he smells as if he bathed in it at one point. He's also extremely untrustworthy, but she seems to have figured that out on her own.

That's the fella I meant!

 

[Syphon of Oor-Tael]

Syphon, alright. But I'd surmise that Littlefinger is behind Waters, not the Tyrells nor Lannisters. Remember that Littlefinger wanted certain Targaryen tapestries from Cersei? The value of pictures are their ability to convey visual details of the past... i.e. Targaryen physical traits.

Why would anyone send a fake Targaryen to Dany? Political power. If someone could convince Dany that Aegon was alive, then Aegon would be the real king, not Dany.

I'm not so sure that the ploy directly involves Dany. Dany has little actual power. Okay, fine, she has the Unsullied and growing dragons, backed by freed slaves. But Westeros has knights, hedge knights, men-at-arms and not to forget forces such as the Alchemists and the Maesters. Most people still see the dragons as still being an old wive's tale, something that sailors heard while on the way and under the influence of alcohol. If they heard it at all. Westeros is big. Littlefinger might be keen on harnessing the power of the dragons, but I believe that he would stand more to gain by presenting a fake Targaryen to the war-torn country to reestablish peace.

They want peace, that's for certain. Why would people choose for the Targaryens over all the other options? Perhaps they don't need to. They can rule together. Aurane with Cersei or Marjory, for the eyes of the people, of course. Yet, I can't escape the feeling that Petyr might set up a marriage between Sansa and the fake Targaryen, giving him indrectl influence on the people that would flock to the Targaryen banner. That is, of course, only in the case of Petyr being the one who puts forward another pretender to the throne. And a rightful one, to be sure. Well, as rightful as an impersonator can be. Perhaps the words in this case do not mean the dragon being a mumer, being fake, but the dragon OF a mummer. You know how Petyr likes to play his chess-games. Perhaps it is the same?

But one last thing remains before I end this post and go to sleep:
How do they present him? Whomever presents Aurane must certainly have some backstory prepared. You know, something that's not along the lines of "This is Aegon". "I heard he was dead" "He got better". That would be horrible. They can hardly go about saying that they found him under a bed in the castle of his birth, now can they?

 

[Bazza]

I like the idea of Petyr marrying Sansa to a fake Aegon a la Aurane Waters Syphon. The more I think about it, I like the idea of Aurane being a fake Aegon. However, I believe a return to Targaryen rule would be very attractive for a good number of people. Public perception of Dany coming to Westeros wouldn't necessarily be viewed as an invasion, but the return of the rightful ruler. What have the people had since the Targaryens were ousted? Nothing but war and famine. Which usurper should they support? There's been six, a good number of them dropping like flies. Targaryen rule represents stability, they've ruled for what, hundreds of years? Also, if Dorne supports her, it gives her a base of operations to stage from. With Varys's cunning and Illyrio's wealth she could accomplish quite a bit. Not to mention the nobles who secretly hide Targaryen tapestries when the King comes to visit. Between fully grown dragons, and the chaos Westeros is in, she would have a pretty good shot of taking the throne.

 

[Boaz]

"He got better"

Very funny.

Soooo... Syphon and Bazza made me wonder about how to bring about public acceptance of a Targaryen return. The easy answer is kill all the Baratheons to avoid a civil war. Littlefinger pulled the strings in the deaths of the two Baratheon Hands (Lords Arryn and Stark). Littlefinger did nothing to prevent Robert's death. Littlefinger arranged the death of Joffrey. Tommen, Myrcella, Stannis, and Shireen are the only ones left... and come to think of it, there's already been an attempt upon Myrcella's life. Her would be assassin happens to have silver hair and purple eyes... hmmm, sounds like a mummer's dragon to me.

 

[TK-421]

Who would the people accept (or rather believe) more:

A former ******* nammed Auranne Waters now know as Aegon Targaryen, the baby that was supposed to be dead, or

A true blooded Targaryen with an army and dragons backing her.

Just asking as this thread seems to be suggesting that Auranne Waters will either seek to dupe Dany or take power somehow. I'm not sure GRRM would go about it this way. A little clumsy if you ask me.

Now, Boaz, you raised a very important name everyone forgets about that could come to play a very important role, especially if Stannis is killed: Shireen.

 

[Bazza]

I just thought of the quote in a new light, maybe it doesn't necessarily refer to him claming to be Aegon. He is of a house descended from Valyrian blood, perhaps Valryian signifies the dragon? Him being a ******* marks him as a mummer's dragon? Or just his line is a mummer's dragon? He goes to Dany and offers his ships, but attempts to betray her for unknown reasons? Just like Cersei describes him, he looks like Rheagar but isn't Rheagar.

 

[TK-421]

That is a very good point Bazza. It may be as seemingly simple as that.

 

[Syphon of Oor-Tael]

I think that being a Targaryen isn't a choice of Aurane, or at least, his own idea. He just goes along with it, forced by whomever has the idea. Also, who would know that he wasn't a real Targaryen? He looks like one well enough to keep reminding Crazy Cersei of the real ones. So, some people might know, the higher ups who knew Aurane made admiral or whatever, but they can be silenced, by blade or bribe.

 

[IlliferThePenniless]

I think Aurane is a very difficult choice as the mummer's dragon. Dany will have people around her who will know him and who will know how old Aegon would have been. Barristan would certainly be in a posistion to know and Tyrion too... I'm of the opinion that the mummer's dragon will be somebody new... maybe a decendant of Bittersteel...