2.02: Sleeper

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When a burglary turns into a slaughter, Torchwood suspect alien involvement. However, when the investigation escalates into a city-wide assault, Captain Jack realises that the whole planet is in danger. [BBC Press Office]

When burglary turns into slaughter, a seemingly innocent woman soon falls under suspicion. [What's On TV]

Gwen and Jack have doubts about a woman they rescue from a violent burglary. [What's On TV]
 
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I've got a prior engagement and will miss this tonight, forgot it was on. Anyone know when it's repeated? (and i don't want to watch the 'kiddie' version!!)
 
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The 'kiddie' version is on a 7pm tomorrow, and I expect the same version is shown at 7pm the following week. I'm not sure how much is edited though. It is also on BBC3 sometime this week. Wait a few months and it will be on BBC3 all day long.
 
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I was entertained up until about the last ten minutes. The "knives and stabbing weapons" thing was a bit Terminator 2 and in a way clumsily done. Maybe the actor who got sent to the former mine was the wrong choice, he was way too wooden. The rest played along quite nicely for me though.
 
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The fella at the mine was extremely wooden... but he did scare me a little, which I think might have been the idea. His expression was just freakish.

All in all, I thought it was quite a good episode. The humour is still there - particularly from Ianto, which is nice to see.

I can already see the series building up around a central theme of "agents" and maybe "time".
 
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I have another questions - how did the embedded aliens decide whom to kill? OK, random military defending the ex-mine are fair enough targets, as is the guy in charge of emergency procedures. But mine guy's wife/partner had her neck snapped. Why? She wasn't trying to stop him.

And why did Beth's alien kill the burglars? That would be a human reaction, to defend her man, no? And then why kill him? Makes no sense.

Their pattern was neither random nor targetted. And the baby buggy rolling away into traffic was just cheap.

Still enjoyed it though!

Mary
 
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It was definitely more enjoyable but still had loads of holes. I didn't understand why she killed the burgalars either and that appeared to have happened before they'd been 'activated'. Why? Didn't make much sense and the more you think about it the more holes appear.
 
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Mary Hoffman said:
And why did Beth's alien kill the burglars? That would be a human reaction, to defend her man, no? And then why kill him? Makes no sense.
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It was explained away as "self-preservation", the alien took over to preserve it's body.

xx
 
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At least the holes did not leap off the screen quite so vigorously as they did in so many of the Series 1 episodes. (This has to be a good trend.)
 
Very entertaining and a vast improvement on the first series. Yes there are plot holes and things ripped-off other shows, but it is hard to be completely original. I think they are trying hard and may have even taken onboard the criticisms made.

I think the 'Cell 114 - Sleepers' are a great introduction to the series. I can see a long running storyline develop with them that just would not be possible with the Weevils last season.
 
I thought it was one of the better episodes they've done especially regarding Beth's dilemma and the emotional side.

To me it looked like the opening for a story arc.
 
Yeah that possibility had crossed my mind.

All in all it was an improvement - let's hope it continues.
 
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Mary Hoffman said:
Then why kill Mike? Still makes no sense. It's a plot hole.

Mary
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Mike was what was keeping Beth Human, making her not want to fulfill the mission, her learned human nature was taking over and Mike/her love for Mike was holding her back from fully activating. Ultimately, it was her human-ness that saved the day as it were.

At least, that's how I saw it.

xx
 
Just one more question - she said she'd never really been ill or anything. So can we assume that nothing has ever been able to break her skin too? Wouldn't she notice that she never cut her skin (and all these other people too)? Also didn't she have pierced ears? Just thinking aloud now ...;)
 
And just when were they taken over as sleepers? Can't have been too young, or vaccinations would have been a problem!
 
pyan said:
And just when were they taken over as sleepers? Can't have been too young, or vaccinations would have been a problem!
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I didn't think that they started off as humans and were overtaken by an alien.

I was under the impression that they came to the planet and adapted themselves to the dominant species kind of like the Doctor and his Fogwatch???

xx
 
That's the impression I got, Adasunnshine. She would need other things (NI Number, etc.), but you don't need to suspend your disbelief to understand how she might have got those.
 
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