The 'Baddest' Baddies

The Wraith are definetly evil... but In one episode - of which the name escapes me - you do see they arn't entirely evil. John and a Wraith are imprisoned together and they help each other to escape. At one point the Wraith says he is just happy to be able to see the stars again for heaven sake, what type of evil villian is that?
 
My take on the Wraith or any other species we might consider as evil is that they are simply the way they are with no moral concept as we would think of it.

The BORG or even the clones in Star Wars, were simply born or created or programmed a certain way and know no different. The Terminator is a good example.

Who knows, some things are just spawned from evil.

The show the Shield...can you be a good cop and corrupt as well?

Sometimes, its a lot easier to justify a bad guys reasoning in the movies, and other times you're ecstatic to see them destroyed or made to suffer.

One of my favorite's is the statement by Agent Smith in The Matrix
"Humans Are A Disease"

There is a fine line between good and evil on Hollywood sets. :)


 
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Maybe you're right... or they only do it to live (I'm refrencing the wraith again).
I mean, for example, if you are on a planet with the only edible food source being talking deer (with feelings and emotions) and you were dying, would you rather:
a) not eat to save the deer or
b) eat the deer and live

I feel like my Religion teacher right now

McKay
 
Thats a whole different concept now. You're talking eating a more intelligent species now.

I feed the deer who come thru my yard. If I were to hunt one I'd have to go some place else.

I think if any of our animals could actually speak and have intellectual conversations, I'm sure they wouldn't have a lot of good to say about the lot of us.

I think we would have a lot more vegetarians if we were not the only "alleged" intelligent species. Yes I said it "alleged". :D

Sometimes too much knowledge or intellect is the evil in itself.

Stop eating the damn apples!!!
 
Sire Of Dragons said:
My take on the Wraith or any other species we might consider as evil is that they are simply the way they are with no moral concept as we would think of it.

The BORG or even the clones in Star Wars, were simply born or created or programmed a certain way and know no different. The Terminator is a good example.

Who knows, some things are just spawned from evil.

The show the Shield...can you be a good cop and corrupt as well?

Sometimes, its a lot easier to justify a bad guys reasoning in the movies, and other times you're ecstatic to see them destroyed or made to suffer.

One of my favorite's is the statement by Agent Smith in The Matrix
"Humans Are A Disease"

There is a fine line between good and evil on Hollywood sets. :)
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Which is why The Shield is one of my alltime favorit tv shows.

Vic isnt a good cop really since he breaks so many rules,laws but he has done alot of good deeds. When he isnt robbing armenian maffia he is a very good cop. He solves alot cases,keeps the gangs on their toes. Making them fear him and his team.

Yeah he deserve to go down for his crimes in the end but he did alot of good too.

You see the last season? The new guy who lead the strike team, who were so naive that he couldnt to the tough job in dealing with gangs. I thought that was great showing, not everyone can do his job.
 
The aliens in the Babylon 5 telefilm Thirdspace . Older and more powerful then even the Vorlons, these malevolent beings believed themselves to be the only ones worthy of existence and waited out every pother race they came into contact with . This film had a very lovcratain look and feel .
 
I liked the Borg initially and I found their relentless pursuit to be quite terrifying. They got overused though and a good baddie loses a lot when they keep on getting defeated by the good guys. The Daleks (another great baddie, initially) suffered with the same problem.

I thought the Peacekeepers from Farscape were pretty decent. All too human. Not evil, but an ideal perverted into something powerful.

My favourites of all are the Shadows from Babylon 5. They looked great and sounded even better (well, their ships did). Not bad, just ideologically different. There is no right or wrong, only perception.
 
If you discount ideology then I would say ‘evil’ - from everyone else’s perspective - would be genocidal xenophobia; a race that can’t tolerate the mere existence of any other species. Maybe the hardcore ‘purist’ Dalek falls into that category, but most other ‘big bad’ protagonists have an enslavement/improvement ethos.
 
One of the scariest villains was time itself in the tv series Sapphire & Steel. Some very scary moments in that programme and some very evil entities created by time itself.
 
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