The Direwolves

Exactly my point... so if the Direwolves bind themselves to Starks, does that mean Jon is eligible for a dragon as well?
 
I've always hoped that Nymeria and Arya get together but in the event that they don't, I think that could be symbolic of the fact that Arya with her becoming an assassin will mean that she won't truly feel like a Stark at the end of it all...
 
But Arya is a truly Stark, and even if she becomes a faceless woman, she will never give up being a stark!
as for the theory that Arya is getting herself a crew just as Nymeria... you should read aFFC, what I suppose u will do just after finishing aCoK. anyway, GRRM is surprising us every few pages, so who know?
 
shaggydog said:
But Arya is a truly Stark

The problem is with them all being away from each other for so long and various family members dieing along the way how will any of them feel like true Starks by the end of everything?

By then they will have spent so long apart and changed so much because of their individual trials that they'll be virtual strangers when the story comes to a conclusion.

Dispite this they all put so much faith in the Stark banner what will they do if it fails? how could they face each other? and as GRRM has a habit of doing exactly what you don't expect him to do with his characters I wouldn't put it passed him
 
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There is an interesting chapter in the beginning of "A Storm of Swords" in which Bran is having one of his wolf dreams. In it, through Summer, he can feel the other wolves, wherever they may be. Likewise, Arya and Jon can feel their own wolves when they dream or try to feel them. I think that the direwolves will be key to keeping the Starks together, as pack. Through the wolves, they will maintain a connection of sorts. In addition, I really don't think that they will lose their sense of family, as they were, for the most part, a very loving, closely knit group of people- the exceptions being, of course, the relationships between Jon, Sansa, and Catelyn.

I think that the fact that they are Starks, beyond all else, will help them during a time in which they are all leading seperate lives and are led to question their identities.
 
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well with the wolfs and the humans evolving at the same time u have to think what will happen to arys wolf. will she gain some new thing when ary becoms a facle lady or what ever. and i thnik at one time the wolfs will bring the starks(includs john and lady stark) back together. and they will fallow there true queen daneares. but back to the wolfs arys one if u notci seems to be folowing her like how it was at the freys after ary was so i think the wolf is serching for her now that they could get tback together.
 
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Arya although seperated from her Direwolf physically still has dreams of her and actually being her.
The stark children are actually linked mentally to their direwolves, except Sansa whose dire wolf is dead.
The Direwolves represnt the children of of Ned Stark or the true representives of the House of Stark and the North.
Interestingly the only Stark child to lose her wolf then goes and betrays her father to Cersei a little later. Of all The Stark children, it seems that Sansa has abandoned the North and all it stands for. The others may be parted from their Direwolves, but they have not forgotten their roots.
Sansa i agree will be more susceptible to Littlefinger and will enter the game of thrones, what she will become we can only guess at.
Personally i cannot stand her.
 
I think the Stark children will be reunited. They need each other. Ned said: "when winter comes the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." IMO Robb was the lone wolf. He was a good battle commander, but Tywin was a better polititian and Melissandre used magic against him.
They are all learning different skills. Jon is becoming a military leader, Sansa a player of the game of thrones, Arya a different type of fighter (have you read the spoilers?), Bran a wizard. Of course we don't know about Rickon yet.
And I don't think Sansa is becoming evil or totally losing her starkness. For me the scene with the snowcastle is a sign that she is still a Stark.
 
So, after four books what do you guys think of I, Brian's question on symbolism and direwolves? I think the symbolism often is used as foreshadowing.

Lady suffered death by obeying the rules all the way to the end. Sansa has followed the rules yet she's escaped death a few times.

Nymeria was driven off to save her life. Yet, the wolf found a new pack and new hunting grounds. Arya was taken by Yoren, Sandor, and the Brotherhood to preserve her life. Now she's seemingly found a pack and a forest to hunt in.

Grey Wind and Robb were both treacherously murdered.

Ghost was driven from the pack at birth. Jon went to the Wall. Ghost is now missing north of the Wall. Jon went missing from the Night's Watch. Will Jon go missing again?

Lady, Nymeria, and Ghost symbolize Innocence, Untamed Intensity, and Faithfulness.

Rickon and Shaggydog have had troubles making adjustments to the breaking of the pack.

Summer. It seems that Bran and Summer are melding... Will either emerge as an individual? For the story to proceed successfully it would seem that Bran will learn to control his warg power... thus Bran and Summer will still be distinct persons later. But both are on a quest... Summer seems aptly named as the hope that is to come and Bran is the person to bring about the change of season.

I dunno. Grey Wind, Summer, and Shaggy don't seem to foreshadow as much as symbolize Revenge, Hope, and Anger.

Just my thoughts.
 
Im not so sure about this one. Its not that the wolves arent metaphysically significant or whatnot.....I just dont think there was an intention on the authors part to carry the foreshadowing past the discovery of the cubs and the significance of their names.

Now I will say this, I think the bond with the wolves empowers the children. The Starks are an exceptional bunch. Robb and Jon, leaders of men as young teens, Bran going green as it were, Arya wandering hither and yon with certain moxie, and only Sansa and Rickon not showing exceptional ability and promise.

Obviously I think Rickon has yet to come into his own and may not have that kind of time.....but I think Sansas lack of direction is in fact tied to the death of her wolf.

What you see as symbolism I see as the personality mirroring that the bond has caused between the children and thier pets. Lady and Sansa being demure, Jon and Snow being solitary figures, Grey Wind and Robb being terrors on the battlefield, Nymeria and Arya.....

Oh well....just 14 thoughts or so on the subject
 
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Obviously I think Rickon has yet to come into his own and may not have that kind of time.....but I think Sansas lack of direction is in fact tied to the death of her wolf.

What you see as symbolism I see as the personality mirroring that the bond has caused between the children and thier pets.
I'll buy that.
 
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