Katharine Kerr

My school forced all of us to spend 50 mins in the library reading about twice every three weeks. Cool huh? Not with their books. Pitiful stuff by Jaqueline Wilson etc like Sweet Valley High.

Luckily they also had some books by Katherine Kerr, so I read the whole series. What astounds me is how thoroughly I've forgotten it. So can't have been great. I'll reread them some time, I do remember liking the elves though.
 
I'm just discovering the Deverry series and have finished The Dragon Revenant (4th book) and about to launch into the 5th one. It's pretty good (obviously not as good as George RR Martin). Apparently she is finishing the series with 2 new books after a long break (I think she had some health problems). The first new book is being published on June 30th and is called The Gold Falcon.
 
TK-421 said:
Apparently she is finishing the series with 2 new books after a long break (I think she had some health problems).

Yes, she's always had chronic health problems, which, as I understand it, became very serious for a while there.
 
i used to like kerr, but then i tried to get the books in her third series and i found it so horrifically dull that i quit the whole lot and ahven't read back. i never liked the girl (whatever her name was) and i thought it would be better with her no longer in it. but i think my tastes had changed too much by that point. i did like the concept tho. but i got bored and that was it.

i think i've become an old fart, because there's very little that interests me these days
 
Jill is the girl -- at least in her final incarnation. Like her or not, I think it would have been hard for the author to take her out, since the whole sequence is supposed to be about her spiritual development.

Being old does seem to rob one of a lot of reading pleasure -- at least that's been true in my own case, as well.

Gosh, and I suppose it's only going to get worse from this point on!
 
I have read most of her books. Many of them I donated to the library at the time...now I am buying them one by one, so that I can re-read them...I really enjoy her stories!
 
Teresa Edgerton said:
Jill is the girl -- at least in her final incarnation. Like her or not, I think it would have been hard for the author to take her out, since the whole sequence is supposed to be about her spiritual development.

Being old does seem to rob one of a lot of reading pleasure -- at least that's been true in my own case, as well.

Gosh, and I suppose it's only going to get worse from this point on!

Not necessarily so! I'm 73 this month and my reading scifi/fantasy has not dropped off. I still enjoy new authors and am always looking for new books to read. I have some Kerr books (later since I've read the first ones) in my TBR pile.
 
yeah, that was her. all i truthfully remember about the series (it has been a loong time) was the first main incarnation story thing (the one with the incest) the whole male rape thing and salamander.
so yeah. i remember the abuse basically! not much else. and the salamander (that was his name?) character because back then i liked that sort of flamboaint elf bard

ok, i still do :)
 
Darkspell, the second book, was the one that had so much rape and physical abuse -- that one put me off of her books for a while (sensitive soul that I am). And the ending was even more depressing than she had originally intended, because her editor pressured her into making changes. I believe she was able to rectify that in a later edition.

But it puzzles me that Katharine Kerr's books aren't more popular right now, considering that she was mistreating her characters in all sorts of unexpected ways, not to mention bumping them off right and left, long before George Martin came along and got so much credit for doing the exact same thing and presumably changing the face of epic fantasy in the process.

Surely her books are the grittiest of the gritty, and the world building is based on a far sounder historical model than the vast majority of fantasy being written today. Readers who say they want more realism in their fantasy ought to adore her.
 
I think, like some others on this thread, after the first few books I just got bored.

I didn't mind all the grittyness, what I minded was not caring who had what done to whom.
 
jackokent said:
what I minded was not caring who had what done to whom.

A perfectly sound reason for putting down a book -- I do the same thing all the time myself.

I suppose where I grow argumentative is when some books get hyped as ultra-realistic and other books -- far more grounded in reality -- get ignored by readers who say they want that sort of thing.

But it's impossible to argue with, "I didn't like the characters."
 
Well, I like the series so far. Like I said, not as good as GRRM and certainly not as "gritty" as Goodkind but I was not shocked by the so-called "abuse" in her books. In fact, is pretty tame when in compared to some other stuff out there. No explicit descriptions of any acts in particular it seems. If you didn't like them or got bored with them, well that's fine. Personally, I find there is much more magic (dweomer) in this series than in some others although it seems grounded in medieval Britain. The third book (The Bristling Wood) didn't seem to move to quickly. Actually, when you get to the last book I read (The Dragon Revenant), that one was interesting with the action taking place in Bardek and their culture and views that Deverry is a barbarians land. Anyways, I will continue to read them and hope I continue to enjoy them. Kills time until the next GRRM book comes out anyways.
 
i didn't find her books all that gritty (nor goodkinds, i have another word for his stuff altogether!) i just never thought that much of them really at all. i find her words a bit irratating, the culture a bit irratating, everything annoyed me really! it was just the abuse that i remember because i do tend to remember that in most books. i think i also remembered it because it was the first case of male rape, there's not a lot of that going around. *shrug* i think, ultimately, tho the subject matter was definetly interesting and it was dark in plces, i didn't like her writing style or the characters, and that is what put me off in the end. style has a lot to do with whether something becomes accessible.

and her characters, well, i never liked any of them. except the salamander dude, and even then i didn't like him, i just liked what he was (flamboaint elf bard) i didn't care when jill's lover went off with that elf woman, or jill left him or the old dude died or anything really! i just think that because she was showing us their past incarnations, she didn't have that much time/space, to build characters that we, or at least i, cared about. so much of the books were what they HAD been, not who they were, and it was hard to care about characters previous lives when you know they end up dead.

in fact, i think i only cared really about the rapist character and his brother! and only because i felt so bad for them that they were in that situation, controlled by that dark evil dude who made them rape that other dude (yes its been years. i can't remember names at all! just those events)

so yeah. for me, lack of good characters made me not care.
 
Funny, because if you are refering to the events in the 2nd book: Darkspell, than the character that was raped was such a minor character that I don't remember his name either and I just read the book less than 6 months ago. In fact, that whole part was only important in that it set the scene for dark dweomer working in Deverry.

Some characters I care little for as well, but Nevyn is pretty good it seems and I now have more respect for Jill after she leaves Rhodry. Oh well, to each their own, but so far so good. I hope I still enjoy them by the I get to book 10 or 11 (I'm about to start book 5).
 
:) i enjoyed the first 8. first two series. it was just after that i didn't. i think it was because i had a huge gap between the second series and the third, and i had changed in that gap. but if you like it now, you'll probably like the rest. i find it is having a break that can make you change your mind about a series

i don't remember teh name of the raped dude. just that he was raped. and mostly cos i felt bad for the rapists. he seemed to care about his victim, he didn't really like being in that psotion, And he lost his brother. i dunno, i just felt bad for him and he was shown to be this huge evil and he wasn't really. i like those tragic sad circumstances, much like the incest of the first book, and that tends to be what i remember. sad, tragic events.
 
oooo! Im a kerr fan! just started reading her latest 'the gold falcon' :> trouble is that its been such a long time in between that ive forgotten some of the fine details. I love Salamander and Rhodry :>
 
The second last book in the entire Deverry series (book 13) just came out recently: The Spirit Stone

I have yet to start reading it (busy with Erickson) but looking forward to the end
 
The second last book in the entire Deverry series (book 13) just came out recently: The Spirit Stone

I have yet to start reading it (busy with Erickson) but looking forward to the end

de ja vu there!

I just bought the book, its sitting on my shelf and I can't wait to see whats happening with Rhodry and Salamander, but I've just started House of Chains and its going to have to wait. I really do think Katharine Kerr doesnt get the attention she deserves.
 
I like Katharine Kerr I have yet to finish collecting upto date her books, its something I keep on meaning to do and not if you see what I mean. I get so wrapped up in other things I don't tend to notice her books, ooops

Gothic x
 
I really enjoy the whole series of Katherine Kerr's Deverry books. I am just finishing up "The Spirit Stone" for the second time, which is her latest release in the world of Ammwn, and am eagerly awaiting the final installments, The Shadow Isle, which will be book six of the Dragon Mage.
 

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