Fantasy vs Science Fiction: A Poll

Which do you prefer?


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This used to be close. Now we're inching towards a fantasy super-majority. Dammit SF fans, where are you?

Where as fantasy explains things.

This is exactly what SF is supposed to be doing by definition, so keep searching or I could suggest a few...

I love watching Futurama, because they explain the SF end of it.

"Good news."

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I like your taste.
 
I would gladly take your suggestion. Currently reading Tale of Two Cities and the modern parallels I'm drawing are frightening.
 
The SF I've read is full of technical jargon and incomplete world building.

That is only one aspect of sci fi, a lot of my favourite SF stories have very little science in them at all, with the focus on the personal or social. Like the book Flowers for Algernon or even the movie Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind. It's science fiction in that a technology is used to achieve something that would be generally considered impossible today but that's only a starting point.

Still read a bit of both and other fiction but I started with mainly Fantasy and now it's mainly Science Fiction.
 
"Flowers for Algernon" did have the technology that enabled the enhancement in it, although your right Quokka it focuses more on the personal relationships overall.

I would gladly take your suggestion. Currently reading Tale of Two Cities and the modern parallels I'm drawing are frightening.

Explained but not a lot of technical jargon? *Gulp* Maybe just a little? Let me ask you this. Which sounds like the type of explanation you prefer to read - deterministic and methodical or accessible and convenient? If the former then maybe you'll like some of the suggestions below. If the latter not all of these will be useful.

Ted Chiang - "Story of Your Life," "Understand," "Exhalation"
Stephen Baxter - Ring
Brian Aldiss - Helliconia series
Greg Bear - "Blood Music"
Allen Steele - Coyote series
Kim Stanley Robinson - Mars trilogy (probably most of his work)
Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle - The Mote in God's Eye, Lucifer's Hammer
 
I'm more of a fantasy patron, myself. In terms of both reading and writing, and I think that has to do with the fact that fantasy can mess around in whatever the heck it wants, in whatever manner it pleases, whereas sci-fi has certain guidelines to follow; logic has a far more prominent place, and that restricts what one can do with the genre.
I love the sense of freedom that comes with fantasy. (Not that I'm knocking sci-fi at all, you understand.)
 
Oh, you see, I see it the opposite; with sci fi everything is possible. Ok you have to a reason, but the future is there and open, where I see fantasy as more genre bound and less exciting. Having said that, I read a lot more fantasy but really good sci fi is the one which leaves me with a sense of wonderment, a sense of being a child again.
 
Really? I've always seen sci-fi as the branching out from logic; the evolution of what we have here and now. Whereas fantasy was pure fabrication, and without boundary. But perhaps, when it comes to sci-fi, I've just read/seen/played the wrong examples. What are your favorite works of sci-fi? Maybe I ought to give them a try.
 
Oh gosh, put my money where my mouth is! Hardcore sci fi lovers will now groan at my choices, and as I say I do read much more fantasy, it's just I find it more formulaic and less likely to absolutely make me stop and say I know something new now and it was worth learning it.

I like Orson Scott card; unfortunately he did Ender to death. I'd recommend Maps in a mirror, which is his short collection. I think his novels are better as short stories so Mikal's songbird is better than the novel it spawned, I think. Quite a lot better, I think.

I like Heinlein.

And, I suppose I'd include Dune, but it's a bit like LOTR it takes a long time to get there; I actually prefer Dune Messiah where the whole Paul and his legacy thing gets addressed a little better I think.

I'm just reading Ian Whates at the mo, and quite enjoying it although it's getting a little bit masculine in style for me in places.
 
Tecdavid: Certainly "mundane" sf would tend to fit that description, as one of its precepts is to use only that which we understand to be established now as the basis for its speculations; hence even a lot of traditional sf tropes (time-travel, the variety of alien species, etc.) are seldom allowed there.

But sf itself is immensely broad and has often had a very close affinity with fantasy (Heinlein's Glory Road, Leiber's "Ship of Shadows", much of the work of the 1940s through the 1960s, the bulk of Moorcock's sf), so fantasy readers be more comfortable with some of this than they think.

I, too, would highly recommend Flowers for Algernon -- yes, it has the technology, but it is never made much of a point of. The entire focus of the book is on the human story of Charlie Gordon. It is also just a damn fine book, period. (And, for my money, the short story is even better in some ways!) I would also recommend "The Ugly Little Boy", "Eyes Do More Than See", "Dreaming is a Private Thing", "The Lost Past", and a host of other stories by Isaac Asimov; Tom Godwin's "The Cold Equations" (which has got to be one of the most heart-wrenching stories out there in its basic situation), 'Mimsey Were the Borogoves", "The Children's Hour", and "Vintage Season" by Henry Kuttner and C. L. Moore; a lot of Theodore Sturgeon, perhaps especially "The [Widget], the [Wadget], and Boff", both the science fiction and fantasy of Harlan Ellison; Dune, by Frank Herbert; The Demolished Man and The Stars My Destination (a.k.a. Tiger, Tiger) by Alfred Bester; the bulk of Ray Bradbury's work; John Brunner's "ecological dystopian" trilogy, Stand on Zanzibar, The Jagged Orbit, and The Sheep Look Up; "Waldo", by Robert A. Heinlein; A Canticle for Leibowitz, by Walter M. Miller, Jr.; A Case of Conscience, by James Blish; Edgar Pangborn's A Mirror for Observers, Davy, or "Angel's Egg"; any number of things by J. G. Ballard (perhaps, particularly, the trilogy The Drowned World, The Drought, and The Crystal World, or the later trilogy -- though this one is particularly grim -- Crash, Concrete Island, and High Rise, or his more hopeful The Unlimited Dream Company;... or just picking up a number of anthologies, such as Damon Knight's A Science Fiction Argosy; Anthony Boucher's A Treasury of Great Science Fiction; The Science Fiction Hall of Fame, vol. 1 (ed. by Robert Silverberg) and vols. IIA and IIB (ed. by Ben Bova); The Golden Age of Science Fiction, ed. by Groff Conklin; or even the volumes of The Hugo Winners, beginning with vol. 1.

I think that, if you try a few of these, you'll find that sf is at least as broad as fantasy, if not more so; for fantasy has tended, for some time now, to be caught in a certain set of tropes (though that is gradually changing), whereas with sf (if one goes with the entire history of the genre), there is no limit save the writer's imagination....
 
I'm going to have to note those down. That's quite a list! :eek:
But thank you very much for it. You're right that I've probably moulded my definition of sci-fi around more mundane, over-done concepts, and that there's plenty more for me to discover. It sounds like Isaac Asimov sports quite a collection, so I might look up a little more about his works, to begin with. :)
 
If your fantisy reading contains only the "usual suspects" I would recommend both sets of Melanie Rawn (if you know me you will see I am quite a fan of hers and recommend her a lot).
the two trilogies Dragon Prince and Dragon Star come together to tell the life of one character while still being full of character and characters themselves. I love the magic system she has set up here and the way she deals with politics, war, and life in general.
her unfinished series Exiles is by far my favorite, the magic system here is explored in depth, and the diametrically opposed factions shown for their similarities. I think its the second book Mageborn Traitor that has my favorite quote about hypocrisy... yes it is I just remembered where Glenin goes after giving it and that's definitely in the second book. This series takes on more social things although its as full of politics as the other two.

I personally like her style of story telling though each series has its own distinct narrative voice. She deals with the harder aspect of life in such a way that one cant help but think.
tried to keep from spoilering anything while giving enough information to help interested parties decide if it would be 'for them'.
 
This is a toughy for me; I like them both, but as a fan I have to go with science fiction. Science fiction usually focuses on the future, fantasy the past, though on rare occasions the present. I like science fiction like Star Treck because it offers other possibilities for what could be, possibilities for not only invention, but social progress and equality that are still being discovered. I realize how philosophical that sounds, but I'm a philosophical person.
 
To be honest as a reader the story and characters have always been more important than the genre. Vampires being about the only thing I tend to put back on the shelf.

Fantasy won purely because as a writer I am lazy and like the freedoms of the genre.
 
I started of by reading Sci-Fi, but once I read authors like Anne McCaffrey, Terry Pratchett etc, I found I prefered Fantasy.
 

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