The author or the genre?

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If you loved a certain author, would you read his/her books from a genre you usually avoided?
The Richard Morgan thread brought this to mind. I love fantasy, and recently really enjoyed THe Steel Remains. As it turns out, he's well known for his SF. So I'm thinking of trying out some of his previous works.
On the flip side, I just finished Anathem and am definitely going to pick up The Baroque Cycle.
 
Yes.

I'm finding nowadays just because you enjoyed a book there is no guarantee that the same author will produce/continue the standard with his/her next title.

So why not take a punt on another genre. Though I doubt I would switch to any romantic bodice rippers whoever wrote the book.
 
For me it depends on if he is a fav author or not. Genre doesnt mean anything. I learned because many of my fav are SF and Fantasy authors.

Richard Morgan is in my fav authors list, one of few contemporary writers in that list who i enjoy reading alot.

His fantasy read too much like his sf but it doesnt matter i bought it without even knowing anything about it,not even the name of the main character,type of fantasy.

I read books for the authors i like,not the genres.
 
It really depends on how far they stray from the genre they're known for.

I love reading Jack McDevitt, but if he suddenly came out with a romantic comedy... no, I wouldn't touch it. If they drift back and forth from sf to f and perhaps a mystery and back again, then it's not a big deal.
 
The older I get, and the more widely I read, the less attention I pay to genre. It is a ghetto we've built for fiction over the past century or so, and I think the adage about a fortified town applies quite well. It is also damaging to a writer's chances, as it used to be that a writer could write any type of tale; as long as it was quality writing (or at least standard for that writer), they had no particular trouble selling it. Asimov, Anderson, Poe, Bierce, Maupassant... the list of writers who wrote all sorts of things (and often did quite well at many or all of them) is quite extensive. To me, to focus on genre is to be self-blinded.

That being the case, obviously I'll try anything by a writer I like. My beef comes in when it is written poorly, not because of the subject matter....
 
I would read anything by an author I really like. I kind of think of it on the same lines as watching a movie that your favorite actor is in. Regardless of the premise of the movie and am sure that you would watch your favorite actor no matter what. It can be interesting to see how an author does in a different genre...most that I read do stay in their comfort zone.
 
Well, since the question was whether I would read a book by a favorite author if it belonged to a genre I usually avoided, I think it would depend on how actively I had been avoiding that genre and why.

If someone whose work I usually love were to start writing books based on a television show or a gaming franchise, for instance, I'm pretty sure I would pass, since I know how these books are written and how long the writer usually has to write them. (Please don't deluge me with the titles of masterpieces by great SF authors who wrote such books a quarter of a century ago. I mean I know how these books are mass-produced now.) Not that I would begrudge a favorite writer the opportunity to make a little money and be able to keep on writing the books I love. It's just that I would by influenced by a) the fact that I don't usually like such books, and b) my serious doubts that a book written in three months or less would be up to the author's usual standard.

But if it was a genre that I just don't happen to read very often, rather than one I consciously avoid, then I would read it.
 
It really all depends. I tend to avoid futuristic Sci Fi, and my favorite author Piers Anthony has written some, so it's really hard to tell whether I'd read stuff like Bio of A Space Tyrant or not, or the Gap series by Stephen Donaldson. I just find all the outlandish space technology to be, well.....inhumanistic.
 
I'd read most anything if it was by an author I liked although the romantic bodice rippers would be a definite no no. I joined a book club at work recently but after the first book Forever Amber, I dropped out.
 
Easily! For me the genre really takes second place to the actual author, as It's really the writing that I enjoy rather than the content.

Though if it was like Mills and Boon, then I'd have to pass :)
 
I would read anything by an author I really like. I kind of think of it on the same lines as watching a movie that your favorite actor is in. Regardless of the premise of the movie and am sure that you would watch your favorite actor no matter what. It can be interesting to see how an author does in a different genre...most that I read do stay in their comfort zone.

Though some writers have also found themselves pigeon holed into certain genre's while they really wanted to branch out. Stephen King I assume wrote under pseudonym just because he was deemed as a horror writer, and people would not have taken his works like The Running Man seriously. Also Philip K Dick wanted to write general fiction, rather than sci-fi, though was forced by his publishers to just pump of SF novels.
 
If it was an author I particularly liked, I would read books outside the genre in which I originally encountered them in, unless there is a particular reason I would not read that genre. To me, that excludes pornography and romance. but anything outside of that, and I would definitely look at it.

The author would, most likely, concern himself or herself with the same subjects and themes as the works that made me enjoy that writer so, and it would be quite interesting to see these themes taken to new genres and areas.
 
Depends on the author and how consciously I avoid a genre. I haven't read Anne McCaffrey's pure romance novels even though much of her work is actually romance in a soft sci-fi setting.

I read and enjoyed The Children of Men even though P. D. James is much better known as a mystery author (one of my faves).
 
The older I get, and the more widely I read, the less attention I pay to genre. It is a ghetto we've built for fiction over the past century or so, and I think the adage about a fortified town applies quite well. It is also damaging to a writer's chances, as it used to be that a writer could write any type of tale; as long as it was quality writing (or at least standard for that writer), they had no particular trouble selling it. Asimov, Anderson, Poe, Bierce, Maupassant... the list of writers who wrote all sorts of things (and often did quite well at many or all of them) is quite extensive. To me, to focus on genre is to be self-blinded.

That being the case, obviously I'll try anything by a writer I like. My beef comes in when it is written poorly, not because of the subject matter....


The only time genre is important to me is when its authors i havent read. I liked this authors maybe i will like similar type stories.

Recent months i have read too widely and i stopped thinking genres and only focusing on getting anything i can find of my top 10 authors. I buy books by Vance,Hammett,Dunsany,REH etc without even caring what type of book it is. Boxning stories by REH ? No problem !


If there were a romantic novel by Jack Vance no problem at all just to read his beautiful prose,his characters ;)

On the other hand there is porno novels by Donald Westlake that is a bit too much at the moment.....
 
As it seems to keep surfacing here....

On the subject of "pornography"... first, the definition of what is pornography, what is erotica, and what is simply fiction of one type or another with explicit sexuality included seems to rest largely in the individual reader's mind; so that makes it difficult to know what people are talking about when they use the word these days.

For example, Philip Jose Farmer's novels Blown and Flesh were both long considered pornography and still are, in some circles, while not in others. Even some of the pieces in Strange Relations are considered pornography by some... though if so, they are among the strangest pornography I've ever encountered, being alien encounters seen through the lenses of Jung and Freud. Moorcock's The Brothel in Rosenstrasse may also be considered pornography by many, yet it's a fine novel that develops Moorcock's usual themes in a very powerful way. Ballard's The Atrocity Exhibition has been called pornography, and in fact the first American printing of it was largely pulped for that reason; even Ballard has said it is intended to be pornographic, though not in the usual sense of the word. In his early days, Harlan Ellison wrote a fair number of what were then known as "stiffeners" for the men's magazines; some of these were collected together in the very difficult to find Sex Gang, published under one of his early pseudonyms (which has an amusing story in itself). If I could get my hands on a copy, I'd definitely read it, simply to see how much of Ellison's approach and the themes common to so much of his work show through.

So yes, if a writer I truly liked and whose work I admired wrote something in any genre, I'd give a try, at least. I'm not a fan of pornography itself, but many things are called pornography which, to me, do not fit the term -- that being a purely meretricious attempt to titillate, without any redeeming artistic value or attempt toward honesty in dealing with characterization or human emotion (or, for that matter, any other theme worthy of artistic exploration). Explicit, even graphic, sexuality is not itself pornographic, if it is handled with artistic integrity and honesty; after all, that is a very large part of the human experience, and to shy away from it as being unworthy of such exploration is to create a blind spot toward a very important aspect of being human. (Choosing not to read it because you don't like the subject matter is another thing. The difference lies in simply not going for something because it is not to one's taste, rather than dismissing it as not deserving such artistic treatment.)
 
All such discussion, aside, JD, I think we each know what is likely to offend, disgust, or otherwise spoil the day for ourselves. When people say they don't want to read pornography, they know what they mean, just as when they say they don't want to read bodice-rippers, they also know what they mean. Plenty of romance writers would (and often do) take issue with anyone who refers to their books in that way, and explain all the reasons why that isn't true. But the reader doesn't care about such technicalities as whether or not any bodices were actually harmed in the reading or writing of a novel. (For instance, I consider Forever Amber -- while by no means great literature -- more in the tradition of a Vanity Fair or a Barry Lyndon than the sort of romance that usually gets classified as a bodice-ripper. It actually makes a pretty poor romance novel, all things considered. But nixie knows what she means when she says she didn't like the book.)

This thread is, after all, about our personal likes and dislikes; the books we avoid, the ones we are drawn to, the ones we might give a chance.
 
No one minds when an author swaps from novels to short fiction (or vice verse), yet in many ways, there's as much (if not more) difference there than between two novels of different genres. If a fantasy novelist writes compelling, fully fleshed characters, you'll have more luck seeing them in his/ her mainstream novel than you will a fantasy 2000-worder.
 
It'd have to be Genre for me. I love Richard Morgan's works, but because i just cvannot get into fantasy, i won't get his latest release. I won't even get any Fantasy be Stephen King.
 

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