31.06: The Vampires of Venice

[PTeppic]

Starting thread, in preparation.

 

[PTeppic]

Not bad, Matt is definitely getting to "be" Dr.Who. Loved the "Because you didn't know her name" line. Very much the New-Who character, even from CE and DT.

But, was it just me not concentrating or was there a major continuity fubar? How did the head vampiress know the Doctor was called the Doctor and him know her first name?

 

[thaddeus6th]

Didn't see all of this. Seemed a bit of a filler episode. Also, Rory, or whatever Pond's supposed fiance is called, was rubbish.

 

[Lenny]

But, was it just me not concentrating or was there a major continuity fubar? How did the head vampiress know the Doctor was called the Doctor and him know her first name?

Not sure about him her first name (someone probably told him it was the school run by Rosanna Something-or-other), but when whassisface gave Amy away, she told him to tell "Uncle... Doctor" that she'd see him soon.

The real continuity error was when the Doctor walked up to the throne when trying to stop it - in the first shot, the globes are whole, in the second one (after he's gone round the back), the globe on the right (if looking at the throne head on) was open and in the third shot (Doctor and Rosanna), both globes were open.

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Not a bad episode. Definitely filler, but better than previous filler. Not as good as Moffat's two-parter, but alright.

Some good dialogue as always, and I rather liked the beginning ("I thought I'd jumped out of the wrong cake... again").

Not much else to say... I liked the set, the costumes were nice and the episode flowed in a decent way. The ending was a bit daft (the cheering?), but at least there was something of a dark side to it in Rosanna's suicide.

Oh - the library card! Nice touch.

Next week's looks very interesting.

 

[HoopyFrood]

Next week's looks weird. But good weird.

Love the Doctor. Love, love, love him.

He keeps getting burned a lot. I think someone's told him off in every episode so far.

 

[Talysia]

This one wasn't my favourite of this series, but I still enjoyed it. There were some nice touches, though, and the bit with the cake at the beginning made me laugh. I find that I like Matt Smith's Doctor even more as the series progresses.

Really looking forward to next week's episode. It looks very interesting indeed.

 

[Pyan]

Pleasant enough filler, but I was disappointed by the Doctor's ending of the "sky of fire" - I mean, climbing to the top of the tower, and flicking a convenient switch? Really...

I agree, though, next week looks a snorter...

 

[Dave]

Rory, or whatever Pond's supposed fiancée is called, was rubbish.

He is more useless than Mickey was. Why is it that the male companions must be boneheaded? Is it because the female companions are no longer screamers and are instead, strong, intelligent women, that the men all must now be idiots? Well, alt-Mickey proved himself in the end, so maybe there is an alt-Rory out there somewhere?

Amy asked for a different kind of adventure, but unfortunately she still got "running around corridors" yet again. This time running around underground tunnels and basement rooms in Venice (surprisingly dry ones too!)

Next week's looks weird. But good weird.

Yes, that looks like it will actually be a little different. Something like the film "Dreamscape" maybe?

Oh - the library card! Nice touch.

Yes, I second that!

 

[nixie]

I like Matt Smith, I prefer him to DT. This was an enjoyable episode but the ending was weak.

 

[Adasunshine]

But, was it just me not concentrating or was there a major continuity fubar? How did the head vampiress know the Doctor was called the Doctor and him know her first name?

As other's have pointed out, Amy did mention an Uncle... Doctor but the thing I noticed was that the head Fish from Space p) seemed to know exactly what had happened to the Timelords and she already seemed to know an awful lot about the Doctor i.e. that he'd killed entire races etc... this is the first time that another alien race - bar the Daleks - knew that a Timelord survived and who he was and what he'd done (that I can recall) so maybe she already knew precisely who he was and didn't need telling...

As for the episode itself, unlike most people here I really enjoyed it, it was a lot of fun and the Fish from Space had both my boys cuddling up to me with that wonderful fear Docky Who induces! Yes it was filler but it was *good* filler. Even the continuity glitches didn't spoil it for me, I actually like spotting things like that!

I am loving Matt Smith's Doctor, although I knew I would from the moment he was announced as having taken over the role, he's fulfilled my expectations of him and more. Amy is a fabulous companion and as for Rory, he reacted, imho, like anyone else would in that situation, we're not all heroes y'know! Plus, he's not stupid, he'd done his research and new what the TARDIS actually was which wonderfully upset the Doctor and made him say "I look forward to people saying it's bigger on the inside" with a lovely bit of pseudo-menace...

Overall a good episode which left me with a lot to think about... the silence is eerie and deafening...

"I'm a Timelord and you're a big fish... think of the children" LMAO!!!

xx

 

[HoopyFrood]

Something I forgot about...in the trailer for the next episode, Amy's village was referred to as the Village Time Forgot (or something). Interesting...

Loved the library card bit. I think I said "Ha! No way!" when he pulled it out.

I rather liked Rory's uselessness. It's just his character. I bet he'll end up proving himself somehow eventually, though.

 

[thaddeus6th]

Rory's not just inept, he's bloody annoying.

I hope he gets exterminated.

 

[Moonbat]

I enjoyed the episode, next weeks looks good. But I was a bit annoyed with the planet the alien space fish came from, Saturn 9!
Is that the ninth moon of Saturn? Maybe a watery moon, because if it isn't then why is it called Saturn 9 by the creatures that live there, maybe named Saturn 9 by human's but not by the indiginous peoples.

 

[Foxbat]

It might be Saturnine rather than Saturn 9.

Maybe just a coincidence but Saturnine is the name if the emperor in Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus (which is very much about the violent fate of Titus and his offspring). However, it's more likely I've probably just eaten too many smarties and given my brain a sugar rush.

 

[PTeppic]

I was watching with subtitles on and it was spelt Saturnyne (from memory).

 

[Moonbat]

Ah, that would make more sense, I just googled Saturnyne and got this from Wiki

Opal Luna Saturnyne is the name of a fictional comic book character created by Dave Thorpe and Alan Davis for their Captain Britain stories. She is the Omniversal Majestrix of Otherworld and a servant of Roma, charged with the safety of the Omniverse.

So I guess it has got nothing to do with Saturn

 

[daveac]

Mostly enjoyed it but the humour (which was good) changed it from a 'scary' episode into a sort of 'romp'

Top notch prduction values on the 'historic' look and mostly an entertaining episode.

We've done both a Review Episode and a Commentary on this already

Cheers, daveac

 

[Lioness]

It was ok. I didn't enjoy it as much as a lot of other episodes, but it wasn't bad.

Taking Rory was a Good Idea. Calm down Amy a bit...
Except then things just got awkward. Rory sort a 3rd wheel, except he shouldn't be. The whole "You can be my brother. He's my fiancé" was comical, but poor Rory

Loved the scenes with the Doctor and Rosanna. Loving Matt Smith. So much.

The mirror exploding wasshisname? Too easy. The climbing tower bit? Too easy/melodramatic.

Liked the dialogue. Liked that the Doctor was rather out of his depth at the stag party...he wasn't his usual chatty self; he was very awkward and a bit slow on the recovery from not-so-well recieved remarks. Liked Rosanna and the fish girls. Very pretty. Also liked Amy. Also very pretty.

 

[Brian G Turner]

A decent enough episode - very well filmed in terms of recreating a sense of being in Venice in the 1580's.

Big continuity issue for me was when the girld they went to rescue would not follow them out into the daylight because it burned - next scene, she's being led through the daylight to be fed to the fishes.

Thought the alien look was a bit pants - looked more like insects than the "fish" being referred to.

Doctor didn't seemed too concerned about the point of running from the Silence - thought he'd be more intrigued.

Big interesting point I thought - Tennant's doctor might have offered asylum somewhere, as he's done for various aliens on earth - a planet of their own, away from trouble. Kept expecting Matt Smith to do the same - but he never did.

 

[Teresa Edgerton]

I saw this last night. I enjoyed the episode, mostly for the visual aspect, which I loved, but the story wasn't bad and I did like that they took Rory along. (And that scene where the Doctor was irritated because Rory didn't say the classic line, "It's bigger on the inside" ... I loved that.)

Like others here, I am liking the new Doctor a lot, and he and Amy seem to have excellent chemistry.

But I also wondered why the "fish" looked so much like insects. Maybe they are more like crustaceans?

The point about the Doctor not offering them some other planet to live on (although it might be a bit of a stretch transporting 10,000 of them in the TARDIS) troubled me, too, but thinking about it later, I think it was because at this point they have to kidnap females and transform them. Dropping them off on an uninhabited planet wouldn't do their species any good, and if he took them from Earth to some other place with sentient life forms, then he would be responsible for the outcome there.