Sherlock (Steven Moffat BBC series)

[Lenny]

Is there a need for own thread forum, or should you guys rather have this one to talk to?

I had originally intended for a thread per episode last year, and again this year, but we seem to be doing alright with one thread for everything. Plus, with only three episodes a year, a sub-forum specifically for Sherlock would end up pretty dead for 49 weeks.

 

[Ursa major]

By the way, if anyone's interested, the Watson blog is online - I won't say it's real - and includes some unfilmed stories: The Geek Interpreter, The Speckled Blonde, The Aluminium Crutch and The Six Thatchers.


See http://www.johnwatsonblog.co.uk/.


(Oh, and the hit counter still seems stuck at 1895.)

 

[Interference]

I'm holding out hope that they'll film Geek Interpreter

 

[ctg]

"Very observant Mr Bear," Sherlock Holmes would say if he would be reading this thread. "Well sourced." I'd like to say. "Nice job." And the blog is an excellent prop. Very intreguing and could be used as a tool if they would want to present it that way, but think about all the millions that would try to log in after seeing the episode. The BBC servers wouldn't be able to cope with the load.

 

[Interference]

(....1895.)

Hmmm, that seems like it should mean something. 1895 ... 1895....

*Flashback: Operation The Date Of The Series First Appearing In The Strand is good to go. I repeat-eat-eat....*

Which reminds me... dinner time....

(Just one of the many reasons I'm not an ace detective....)

 

[Dave]

A slightly strange episode, with weird pacing issues...

I enjoyed this, thought it was good, maybe not as good as the first series, but still good.

I actually thought it was just as good, and just as weirdly paced, as last year. My wife, who didn't watch it last year, found it hard to follow. The time taken for characterisation in the first episode was discussed earlier in this thread, and I wonder that if you hadn't seen the first three parts whether you could ever follow it this year.

I'd also like to see The Geek Detective. Those blogged stories were all shown yesterday on the text Watson was writing.

I'm also looking forward to, and wondering how they will spin The Hound of the Baskervilles next week. Do you think they will also have Holmes die/disappear? It is about the right time.

They showed violin playing last night, and there was talk of him going on a "bender", but we haven't seen him bare-knuckle fighting or much of him being a master of disguise.

I just saw the Guy Ritchie, Robert Downey Jr., Jude Law - Game of Shadows at the cinema and I much prefer this. In their version, Sherlock becomes just a Steampunk Action Hero. On that I agree with Connavar.

The tv show was just the old version in a modern setting, with iphone instead of reading magazine all the time. The changes they made was made with respect to original work. They even had homage in the first ep to A Study in Scarlet.

But this is also clever, very clever indeed. The chemistry between characters works in both re-tellings, but in this version the characters are also believable. Holmes is clearly intelligent, brilliant, but also obnoxious, hard-work and entirely lacking in social graces. Watson acts like an ex-Army Doctor should act.

... and after watching, I couldn't stop myself from thinking, "if you never do another Dr Who, Stevie, keep doing Sherlock."

I have to agree with everything you said. I'm progressively less impressed with what he has done to Doctor Who, but he has my permission to continue with this.

 

[ctg]

I loved Watson smacking Sherlock straight in the middle of the face and then going absolutely bonkers, and starting swear in Sherlock's ear, "I have bad days also..."

Pure brilliance.

Rewatch it alone, wearing headphones and enjoying BBC HD quality from the screen, while nibbling cheese and biscuits with a glass of scotch by the side. The details they have dropped all over the sets are numerous. You can find more than what you were seeing in the first watch. There are all sort of clues to the memorabilia from Author's influence to our culture. British culture that is. Modern one.

 

[Cayal]

Holy crap, it's back on? I didn't know.

*goes to download*

 

[Interference]

Hmmm, sounds like there may be a "T" too many in your subtitle, there, Prince

 

[reiver33]

I'm not convinced that 'Moriarty' we've been presented with is the real deal. This character depends too much upon violence, or the threat of same, and is far too high-profile - as opposed to remaining an unknown entity acting through subordinates.

I do enjoy the series though.

 

[StormFeather]

Well, have just watched this evening's episode, and I loved it!

Amongst other things it made me laugh. I'm really enjoying the dynamic between Watson and Sherlock.

 

[Vertigo]

I also watched and thoroughly enjoyed tonight's episode. They do seem to have put a little more humour into this series, though I am getting a little tired with all the nudge nudge wink wink innuendos about them being gay. Also I really don't think any military bases in this country, no matter how secretive, would have land mines around them and a pathetic fence you could just hop over into the minefield. Is that naive of me? Still it was really a minor detail and otherwise I thought it was very good.

 

[Moonbat]

I enjoyed the Hound of Baskerville too, but something is lacking from this series that was there last series, I'm not sure what it is, but somehow the 90min episodes aren't as good as the 60min ones. There were a few bits I did like, the bit where Sherlock went to his Mind palace was quite cool, and it is a bit funnier than last series, but, I don't know why, but I'm not as impressed as I was with the first series.
Still one of the best things on TV at the mo though.

 

[ctg]

What is it about the bit, where the characters give references to the one of the cases in the blog, mainly to the aluminum thing. Are they going to film it?

 

[Mary Hoffman]

Please can someone tell me what exactly the last scene meant? Was that Moriarty in the cell and why did Mycroft let him out and why did he write Sherlock on the mirror?

 

[Vertigo]

I have no idea at all Mary, I am trusting all will become clear next week

 

[thaddeus6th]

I hope 'Moriarty' ends up dead in the first 10 seconds. The series as a whole is very good, I think Cumberbatch and Freeman are excellent, but the prime antagonist is as terrifying as a squealing, drunk schoolgirl.

It's like Darth Vader removing his helmet and revealing himself to be Lenny Henry.

 

[Moonbat]

I just checked the ending again, I didn't think it was Mycroft at firs,t but you are right.
Maybe he is tired of Sherlock breaking laws and jeopardising his position.

Interesting what Moriarty heard on the phone to stop him killing Sherlock at the start of the series, and how or why he allowed himself to be locked up.

Looking forward to next week's episode.

 

[AnyaKimlin]

To be honest I was surprised when Moriarty showed up at the end of the first series - I thought it was going to be Mycroft - it made sense to be brother against brother with the plots they had. But maybe that was just too obvious.

 

[Interference]

I was expecting Mycroft to be Moriarty on my first viewing as well, but was happy about how they subverted my pre-conceptions (except that Gatiss would have made a marvellous Moriarty).

I am trying my darnedest not to try and second-guess what Moffat and Gatiss are planning in this series as I will almost certainly love it - no expectations, easily satisfied, see? - but I just have to wonder what has happened to Moriarty between having his plans upset last week and this week. Something pretty life-changing, I suspect, and quite possibly related to the hallucinogenics employed to generate the hound fear response?