1.03 Game of Thrones - Lord Snow

I can't remember what I originally thought Littlefinger would look like.

After I saw this picture, this is how I always imagined him.

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I think the actor pulls the persona off quite well.
He's rather small of stature, he looks like a calculating
individual, and very presentable... that's Littlefinger to me.
 
The absense of the wolves I can understand. To a person new to the series and who has no intention of ever reading the books the wolves would come across as an irrelevance. Hopefully it will change as the series goes on because of you know what happens in the later books...
 
I thought this episode really took a step back. I'm watching with my wife, who hasn't read the books, and the first two episodes really hooked her, but in this one I could tell her interest was flagging a little bit.

I do think they are having a little trouble bringing the work to the screen, and that is understandable. A lot is missing without being able to experience the world from the internal POV of characters, and so much of the depth of history and world building is absent, and that makes it kind of feel like a hollow shell of the books. I do wonder how I'd feel about the series if I'd never read the source material. I honestly don't know if I'd keep watching...
 
Come on Cul: show a little backbone. (Some of us struggled through eight 1-hour episodes of the BBC's so-called science fiction series, Outcasts, on the slim - and, sadly, unrealised - hope that something - anything - would make the slightest bit of sense. Watching virtually any transcription of AGoT would be infinitely better than that.)

;):)


On another matter.... We (websites, that is) seem to be dividing audiences into, on the one hand, the readers of the book and those who aren't into fantasy on the other. Surely there must be some folk who quite like fantasy but have seen the size of the books, know that the series isn't finished, have decided not to invest reading time on them, but are willing to see what all the fuss is about through the rather less brain-frying medium of an HBO series. Does anyone know how this constituency is finding the show so far?
 
That pretty much describes my wife - fantasy fan, loves the LotR films, HP books and films, and so on, but is unlikely to read Martin's work because of the sheer size - and as I said, she liked the first two eps but her attention was flagging in this one. Both those first two episodes ended with pretty big hooks and she was excited to see the next episode. This time around, not so much of a hook, not so excited to see the next episode.

That's not necessarily the fault of the show creators, of course - they are slaves to what is happening in the books, obviously, and this little stretch was not quite as full on. I don't know, but I kind of feel that to some extent they kind of rushed or glossed over the whole intrigue of who owns the knife and thus who sent the killer. The somewhat rushed introductions of Varys and Littlefinger may have contributed to this.

I always thought that television was the perfect medium to visually adapt these books, as it would allow plenty of room for development and a near-faithful representation of numerous threads of the plot without having to resort to the shortcuts inherent in film. I gues in the end though, ten hours is only roughly six hundred script pages, and script pages are a lot less dense then novel pages, so I may have been a little naive in that thought.

I'm not saying the show isn't enjoyable, though. I'm just the exacting type, is all.
 
I thought this episode really took a step back. I'm watching with my wife, who hasn't read the books, and the first two episodes really hooked her, but in this one I could tell her interest was flagging a little bit.

I do think they are having a little trouble bringing the work to the screen, and that is understandable. A lot is missing without being able to experience the world from the internal POV of characters, and so much of the depth of history and world building is absent, and that makes it kind of feel like a hollow shell of the books. I do wonder how I'd feel about the series if I'd never read the source material. I honestly don't know if I'd keep watching...

My wife HATES fantasy, she's hooked. I have 4 friends (that I know of) that haven't read the books and love the show. Two of the four have already started reading the books.

What I'll say though is that i think someone not having read the books would be lost without either

A "coach" sitting there with them watching

or

at least watching all of the HBO mini episodes that help fill in gaps.
 
My brother is enjoying the show. He's more peculiar of what he watches than I am, but he asks a lot of questions. I've had to tell him that he'll have to watch and find out the answers more than once.

I think they're doing a good enough job to tell a coherent story. I do wish they had more than 9 or 10 episodes in the season to tell it, but I am very satisfied with what I've seen so far.
 
The biggest thing it has going for it is that it's just plain well made, well written and well acted.

Neither of my parents and a couple of friends have read the books, and while they can tap me to fill in the blanks, and probably started watching it out of my enthusiasm, are all of the same mindset that the episodes shouldn't end.

It's reported at what $4.5 mil an episode?

There's a lot of two hour movies that cost well over $10 mil to make that could learn a lot from the production of two episodes from the series.

It is confusing for neophytes, but as a member of LOST fandom, I can say with surety that there wasn't one of us that wasn't confused as all get out for six years straight.

The series, as with the books, will become clearer with exposure.

Plus, it's awesome.
 
Any chance that as the series gains popularity they may expand to more episodes per season? Perhaps 12? The books do keep getting longer.
 
Any chance that as the series gains popularity they may expand to more episodes per season? Perhaps 12? The books do keep getting longer.


HBO tyupically does seasons that are 12 or 13 episodes long. GRRM said he is hoping for longer seasons as well. I think they'll have to lengthen the seasons to maintain the quality of the adaptation, or else have to cut out massive chunks of the story.
 
Hope so :) there is no way they can do it well in 10, pace in the first series is quite fast
 
As said by others the lack of wolves is bothering me, and am I the only one unimpressed Robert? I know he's a good actor but I always imagined him a lot bigger both in height and girth! The image in my mind when reading the book is a Brian Blessed type figure when he played the king in Blackadder, although obviously not as poorely acted ;-)
 
Season 2 has been announced as 13 episodes, I believe.

Hope so!!
I read somewhere most likely here on this forum that A Storm of Swords will be two seasons. Anyone else heard this? Or was I in my cups?:cool:
 
I haven't heard that Conor, but it would make sense since that book is quite huge.

And I like Robert so far in the TV show. He could have been a little taller maybe, but overrall I think he's doing a good job.
 
Hope so!!
I read somewhere most likely here on this forum that A Storm of Swords will be two seasons. Anyone else heard this? Or was I in my cups?:cool:

I don't think anything regarding the content of the second season has been spoken about yet. My gut feeling is that while the first season follows AGOT, it will make more sense for season two to use elements from both ACOK and ASOS, rather than try to focus on just ACOK. I think we have to keep in mind that although the series is called Game of Thrones (more catchy than A Song of Ice and fire), it's going to be about not only telling the story also, and maybe more importantly, how to keep and grow audiences. The writers/producers may take a very similar path to the one Jackson took when he made the timeline decisions that he did when making LOTR. I'd have no problem with that personally.
 
Hope so!!
I read somewhere most likely here on this forum that A Storm of Swords will be two seasons. Anyone else heard this? Or was I in my cups?:cool:

That would make alot of sense because the the book i'm reading of "A Storm of Swords" has been split into two books.
 

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