March's Manic Marauding of Maverick Meanderings

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Edge of Dark Water, by Joe R. Lansdale

In Edge of Dark Water, Joe R. Lansdale treads the all-too familiar territory that he previously ventured into with The Bottoms, A Fine Dark Line, and All The Earth, Thrown to the Sky - only it's not as good as even the lesser of those. It lacks the social impact of The Bottoms, doesn't have half the heart as A Fine Dark Line, and the adventure seems more insignificant than All the Earth.

Right off the bat I had some trouble with the novel. Most importantly, the POV character seemed like an odd choice to me. I still don't understand why Lansdale wrote from the POV of a teenage female, especially since she's a total tomboy and basically acts like a dude. There is a perfectly good male character that would have made a much more interesting POV character (especially given Lansdale's ability to write about persecution, of both the racial and sexual varieties). Also, I don't believe for a moment that the main POV character would have, or could have written such a tale.

If it sounds like I'm being ultra-critical, it's because I am. From many other authors, this thrilling offer would rank among their best. It's well written (above niggle aside), and contains many examples of Lansdale's expert ear for regional dialog, and he creates some truly harrowing moments. There's a chase down a river that is truly something special, and I thought the novel was going to turn into something great at this point - it did not.

Truth is, I expect more from Lansdale, and I want him to return to greatness; I truly believe that he is a National Treasure, easily on par with Mark Twain and Flannery O'Conner when it comes to southern-fried lit. It seems to me as if Lansdale has lost his edge, or that he needs to find some new inspiration. There is an old saying that one should write what one knows, but I think it'd do Lansdale some good to venture outside the boundaries of East Texas and the south. I know he still has it in him, but I can't help but accuse him of being a bit lazy, and relying too much on what he knows. There was a time when Lansdale was pushing the boundaries of thrilling fiction - he once started where every author would stop.

That's no longer the case, and thus I'm left feeling disappointed, even if the work isn't necessarily bad. I want the King to return, and I hope he does. At least the Hap and Leonard novels are still good, and I do have Devil Red still on my to read shelf.
 
Re: February's Fabulous Feast Of Fully Formidable Fiction

Nice. I read The Underground Man a while ago. Love Lew. (Although he's no Travis McGee.)

I read a few John D. MacDonald's back when I was a teen and easier to impress, but they seemed awfully repetitious and his friend (Meyer?) grew a bit annoying.

I went through two months about 12 years ago where I read one after another of Ross Macdonald's Lew Archer novels and was consistently entertained and even edified. The Zebra-Striped Hearse, The Goodbye Look, Black Money, The Far Side of the Dollar and The Underground Man were all excellent. That last is a favorite, though, because I particularly enjoyed the way Macdonald merged the mystery with a somewhat more personal story for Archer. Macdonald had a real skill for writing about children, in particular.

The Chill, which gets a fair amount of attention from mystery readers, is also good, but Macdonald puts so much effort into orchestrating the plot so all is revealed only in the last lines of the novel, that I think the characterization suffers some. Even so, it's entertaining.

Randy M.
 
I finished Secret Garden! Score. First book I've completed finished in a stupidly long time.

Now I'm trying Weaveworld by Clive Barker. The blurb has told me nothing of what the book's about, so I'm going into it completely blind. But so far, loving it. I love fantasy that starts off in the real world, with people getting shoved into things that they have no clue about (really liked the way the Amber series started, and actually got a bit bored when he got his memory back and everything went all-out fantasy) and the more normal and clueless, the better (like in Neverwhere, I loved Richard).
 
Now I'm trying Weaveworld by Clive Barker. The blurb has told me nothing of what the book's about, so I'm going into it completely blind. But so far, loving it. I love fantasy that starts off in the real world, with people getting shoved into things that they have no clue about (really liked the way the Amber series started, and actually got a bit bored when he got his memory back and everything went all-out fantasy) and the more normal and clueless, the better (like in Neverwhere, I loved Richard).

This is an amazing work of fantasy fiction. One of my very favorites.
 
Now I'm trying Weaveworld by Clive Barker. The blurb has told me nothing of what the book's about, so I'm going into it completely blind. But so far, loving it. I love fantasy that starts off in the real world, with people getting shoved into things that they have no clue about (really liked the way the Amber series started, and actually got a bit bored when he got his memory back and everything went all-out fantasy) and the more normal and clueless, the better (like in Neverwhere, I loved Richard).
Don't worry, the protagonists spend the entire novel running around clueless. Personally, I think it is one of Barker's weaker efforts.
 
I just finished KW Jeter's Morlock Night and i have to say that i enjoyed it a lot more than i thought i would. Now on to Exogene by T. C. McCarthy.
 
This is an amazing work of fantasy fiction. One of my very favorites.

Don't worry, the protagonists spend the entire novel running around clueless. Personally, I think it is one of Barker's weaker efforts.

Hah! Way to confuse a person, guys! :D

Considering my reading habits of late, it's at least keeping me interested and making me read on, so whatever faults it may end up having, it has that in its favour for now.

Don't worry, the protagonists spend the entire novel running around clueless.

Excellent, glad to hear it! ;) Although I also hate when people do stupid things and refuse to cotton on to something that's right in front of their faces...I have a fine line and characters had better tread it properly, dagnabbit.
 
Hah! Way to confuse a person, guys! :D

Well, hey...it must be doing something right to get such polarizing opinions. I'd much rather read something like that than something that everything thinks is OK.

There are moments, characters, and situations from the book that will be forever imprinted on my mind. The entirely thing is relentlessly inventive and creative, and entirely otherworldly; in other words, it possesses every quality that I desire in a work of fantastic fiction.
 
Hello there. First post :)

Just finished Stephen Baxter's book Flood, a deep, dark, and depressing look at what would happen if sea levels rose at an unpredicted rate! Now onto Ark, book number 2 in this series.
 
Jumping back into Discworld and reading Men at Arms by Pratchett. Always fun.
 
Well, hey...it must be doing something right to get such polarizing opinions. I'd much rather read something like that than something that everything thinks is OK.

There are moments, characters, and situations from the book that will be forever imprinted on my mind. The entirely thing is relentlessly inventive and creative, and entirely otherworldly; in other words, it possesses every quality that I desire in a work of fantastic fiction.

Well, 130 pages in and I've very much enjoying it. A mix of normal, fantastic and then downright creepy.

And the characters really are (so far) treading that oh-so-demanding line that I mentioned I have very nicely! Well done them.

Barker is also very good at just releasing the right amount of information to keep you intrigued, but not enough to give you the full picture so you just have to carry on...
 
Re: February's Fabulous Feast Of Fully Formidable Fiction

I read a few John D. MacDonald's back when I was a teen and easier to impress, but they seemed awfully repetitious and his friend (Meyer?) grew a bit annoying.

I went through two months about 12 years ago where I read one after another of Ross Macdonald's Lew Archer novels and was consistently entertained and even edified. The Zebra-Striped Hearse, The Goodbye Look, Black Money, The Far Side of the Dollar and The Underground Man were all excellent. That last is a favorite, though, because I particularly enjoyed the way Macdonald merged the mystery with a somewhat more personal story for Archer. Macdonald had a real skill for writing about children, in particular.

The Chill, which gets a fair amount of attention from mystery readers, is also good, but Macdonald puts so much effort into orchestrating the plot so all is revealed only in the last lines of the novel, that I think the characterization suffers some. Even so, it's entertaining.

Randy M.

I have read the first Travis McGee book and never went back for another JDM book. It had aged much worse than Lew Archer books,RM. I have got the second Travis McGee as second hand just because many of fav authors sees to rate John D.Macdonald. Block,Westlake etc

I dig Lew Archer books, near perfect hardboiled PI series. They deal with more real issues, regular characters than most detective stories. I look forward to read much more of Ross Macdonald.
 
Now reading On the Beach by Nevil Shute. I've never seen the movie unfortunately. It has often been claimed that Ava Gardner described Melbourne as "the perfect place to make a film about the end of the world." How could someone say that?
 
I'm reading the House on Durrow Street by Galen Beckett. It's Jane Austen with a little magic. I think it's better that it's predecessor, The Magicians and Mrs.Quent.
 
Now reading On the Beach by Nevil Shute. I've never seen the movie unfortunately. It has often been claimed that Ava Gardner described Melbourne as "the perfect place to make a film about the end of the world." How could someone say that?
I've still got my original copy of that book knocking around somewhere. I devoured Shute's books when I was younger. I keep on wondering about a nostalgic re-read.
 
I've spent the last few months re-reading all of my fantasy books!

Just now re-reading all of the wonderful Sara Douglass trilogies.
 
I started Iain M Banks' Consider Phlebas last night. I've been wanting to read his Culture novels for a while now. This book reads (so far) very much like a Jack Vance book. Really enjoying it.
 
I started Iain M Banks' Consider Phlebas last night. I've been wanting to read his Culture novels for a while now. This book reads (so far) very much like a Jack Vance book. Really enjoying it.

Its a good introduction, but the best Culture novels are mid series (in my opinion) so I am really quite jealous of now, you are at the start of a great series with the best to come!
 
Its a good introduction, but the best Culture novels are mid series (in my opinion) so I am really quite jealous of now, you are at the start of a great series with the best to come!
Although interestingly enough there are quite a lot of readers who like the Culture books but not this one. I would say, Grunkins, that if you are enjoying Consider Phlebas (which I also loved by the way) then you are in for a great ride.
 
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