Tournament v2.0 Nomination thread

[Eulalia]

Bronn, if his oponant is in mail, and it is a melee.

 

[Boaz]

The contestants for the original tourney were...

Jaime
Mance
The Greatjon
Brynden Tully, the Blackfish
Areo Hotah
Sandor Clegane
Qhorin Halfhand
Tormund Giantsbane
Robert Baratheon
Jaqen
Syrio
Ser Addam Marbrand
Lord Randyll Tarly
Eddard
Bronn
Strong Belwas
Brienne of Tarth
The Lord o' Bones, a.k.a. Rattleshirt
Ser Arthur Dayne
Donal Noye
Shagga
Euron
Oberyn
Barristan
Styr, the Magnar of Thenn
The Mountain that rides
Victarion
Loras
Khal Drogo
Ser Garlan Tyrell
Rhaegar
Jorah

Believe Wiggs when he says he'll randomize the pairings. He must have randomized the last tourney because the first round fights that stand out are Brienne vs Rattleshirt (these two would each have probably ranked 29+ in the field of 32 if I'd been seeding them) and Barristan vs Gregor (I'd probably have both of them as top five seeds). So you guys need to be ready to be disappointed when Eddard faces off against Jon or we see our two favorite scoundrels, Bronn and Sandor, fighting each other.

Wiggs, you wanted me to get serious about my nominations and pare them down? If so, then I'd really like to nominate Lord Commander Ser Duncan the Tall, Lord Commander Ser Gerold Hightower the White Bull, Ser Lyn Corbray wielding Lady Forlorn (the Corbray family Valyrian Steel blade), Ser Harras Harlaw the Knight, Timmett of the Burned Men, Dagmer Cleftjaw, Qarl the Maid, Andrik the Unsmiling, Ser Lyle Crakehall the Strongboar, Ser Arys Oakheart, Ser Balon Swann (Balon took second to Anguy in the archery competition at the Hand's Tourney), Obara Sand, Rorge, all the Mereenese pit fighters that Dany's husband uses as bodyguards, Ser Shadrich the Mad Mouse, Grey Worm (his equipment and style would be a nice change), Ser Rolly Duckfield, Ser Osmund Kettleblack (I'd like to see his blood spilled, even by Rattleshirt), Mero the Titan's *******, Iron Emmett, Black Walder Frey, and Ser Robert Strong (formerly Ser Gregor Clegane, I think).

I'd like to say that a Valyrian Steel sword makes almost anyone an automatic contestant. Eddard (Ice), Ilyn Payne (Ice), Randyll Tarly (Heartsbane), Lyn Corbray (Lady Forlorn), Dunstan Drumm (Red Rain), Jon Snow (Longclaw), Jorah Mormont (Longclaw), Jeor Mormont (Longclaw), Brienne Tarth (Oathkeeper), and Harras Harlaw (Nightfall) are the adult owners of Valyrian Steel. Even though Joffrey I and Tommen I both have possessed Widow's Wail, I'd not like to put them in the tourney.

And I'd like to know if Hodor is really going to fight or if you're giving us Brandor (Bran on Hodor).

Edit: By the way boys and girls, in this tourney of 48 or 64, there are probably only eight who could actually win this thing (and I think that's generous). The other names are just to make numbers nine though thirty look good for a while. So let's not harrass Wiggy about whether Nute the Barber, Dolorous Edd, or Arya should get the sixty-fourth and final spot...

Also, here's some interesting trivia regarding the original tourney.... I will not use names so as not to prejudice you.... Only one contestant won a unanimous first round decision. He then tied in his second round match. As the judge, Wiggum broke the tie in favor of that contestant who went on to make the final four.

Second Edit: Do we know if Rhaegar took one of the Valyrian Steel blades of the Targaryens to the Trident? Or did the Targs lose all of them to the Blackfyres?

 

[viZion]

The contestants for the original tourney were...
Wiggs, you wanted me to get serious about my nominations and pare them down? If so, then I'd really like to nominate Lord Commander Ser Duncan the Tall, Lord Commander Ser Gerold Hightower the White Bull, Ser Lyn Corbray wielding Lady Forlorn (the Corbray family Valyrian Steel blade), Ser Harras Harlaw the Knight, Timmett of the Burned Men, Dagmer Cleftjaw, Qarl the Maid, Andrik the Unsmiling, Ser Lyle Crakehall the Strongboar, Ser Arys Oakheart, Ser Balon Swann (Balon took second to Anguy in the archery competition at the Hand's Tourney), Obara Sand, Rorge, all the Mereenese pit fighters that Dany's husband uses as bodyguards, Ser Shadrich the Mad Mouse, Grey Worm (his equipment and style would be a nice change), Ser Rolly Duckfield, Ser Osmund Kettleblack (I'd like to see his blood spilled, even by Rattleshirt), Mero the Titan's *******, Iron Emmett, Black Walder Frey, and Ser Robert Strong (formerly Ser Gregor Clegane, I think).

Boaz, I think you're missing the spirit of the nominations. How about one or two? Naming every character in the book who maybe might possibly have ever thought about fighting (all of the Meerenses pitfighters? Really?) is kind of taking the fun out of it. We do know you have encyclopedic knowledge of the series. No need show off here . How about one or two people you *really* want to see?

 

[Tywin]

Is there a way that we could sponsor a couple fighters each?

So, then I would have a stake in whether or not "My" fighter is going to win. Kind of like fantasy football.

If we do that I'd recommend a randomized draft so we don't get all catty deciding who gets to have the top couple seeds. It would also help keep it interesting for when we have less than stellar characters fighting... we would still push for the one that is on our team.

 

[Stribog]

I'm backing Tywin's proposition.

 

[Boaz]

viZ, exactly. I already know which two I think are in the finals.

Tywin, I know which two I'd sponsor. How about the sponsor is responible for an account of how the match would be won by his/her contestant.... promotion. Could you write up a convincing argument for Sam over the Mountain? Or at least make it interesting? Or humorous? I might vote by how each sponsor could sway me rather on how easily I think Drogo could butcher Nimble Dick.

 

[Tywin]

Boaz, we could definitely provide commentary to sway votes towards our fighter, but I think it would work out better if the sponsoring was somewhat random... just like with a fantasy football league, you end up paying attention to different players than you normally would because they ended up on your team. I have a feeling that if we just say "These are my two or three guys" - then we'll have ten people all wanting the same couple dudes.

So, Wiggum gets the final list of characters, then we get a list of forum members that want to play, and he either assigns characters to us randomly or he assigns draft sequence to us randomly and we get to select them in the order of the random number we received.

Big problem with letting us choose is getting everyone actually active enough on here to complete a draft. I think random assignments would be better (and again, it gets us interested in those "other" characters).

 

[Tywin]

Wigg's if you get the list of characters together I'll handle assigning/drafting them out to the active members of the forums and from there it should be fairly transparent to the running of the tournament.

 

[ArstenWhitebeard]

If this is going down, I want in.

I would propose to put up Gerris Drinkwater, The Tattered Prince (of the Windblown) and Lord Berric Dondarion, (but only after he died twice, I think he was at his peak then)

 

[Heartsbane]

I would like to nominate Lord Randyll Tarley and Ser Garlan Tyrell

 

[pedro_1013]

Hi!

The tournament idea seems fun. Here's some suggestions:
Use only characters that are, or were at some point, alive in the books. This way we remove for example Rhaegar and Arthur Dayne. Also, use the characters as they are, or the they were before dying, so for example put Jaime in the tournament with one hand only. Or use only the alive ones.

For the tournament i suggest Daario Naharis.

 

[Boaz]

SPOILER ALERT for AGOT and ASOS!!!

pedro, Hello to you, too... and welcome. The first tourney was between ASOS and AFFC and the characters were from their physical peak. So most of us were not surprised at three of the final four... though the fourth was a complete surprise to me.

If the tourney features only living or characters that GRRM wrote about when they were living, then Rhaegar and Arthur Dayne will not be featured but Ser Duncan and the characters from the Dunk'n Egg tales will be even though they lived before.

If the tourney takes place immediately at the end of ADWD, then of course Duncan, Eddard, and Drogo are out and Jaime will be one handed.

It's Wiggum's tourney, we're all invited to watch the fights, cheer on the heroes, and shout down the villains. Wiggum will provide all, if any details, rules, handicaps, or decisions in tie breakers. Always trust Wiggum.

 

[ArstenWhitebeard]

I think Tie Brakers should be settled by both parties Dying.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Boaz]

Uh, then their next opponent wins automatically... Just trust Wiggum. He's like Littlefinger, only bigger.

 

[ArstenWhitebeard]

I'm sorry, I don't know how these things worked in the past.

I would also like to retract my Berric Dondarion. The more I thought about it, the more I think, he wasn't really a good fighter seeing as how he died so many times.

 

[Boaz]

Getting killed, err, knocked down is not the problem... it's the getting back up.

Arsten, you can go back and look at the previous tourney. You may enjoy it. You may disagree with the results. Meh.... Oops, sorry, you don't speak Japanese.

 

[Boaz]

Anyone see Episode Nine of Season Two last night? If so, then the Hound, Bronn, and Stannis should be getting lots of support right now. Stannis was the first over the wall?!?! Stannis was a stud. Sandor was Sandor. Bronn was Bronn. Lancel was kicking ass until he got touched, then he went crying to Cersei. Even Tyrion got a nice kill... of course, he pulled a Merry and hamstrung his opponent from behind first.

 

[ArstenWhitebeard]

Bronn's Bronn-ness is a leading motivating factor in watching the show. I'm glad his roll didn't get diminished.

I know this isn't how things work with this tourney, But I would like to see the Sandor vs Bronn fight come to fruition, just to see who would win.

I honestly couldn't even say which one I think would win.

 

[Tywin]

"... and quicker!"

 

[Boaz]

Arsten, Ask and you shall receive.

Six years ago Wiggum hosted a tourney for ASOS. You can find all the threads for each fight if you look... Just search by thread starter: Wiggum. And if you do go looking, you'll also find this gem... your heart's desire. Battle of the Titans: Bronn vs. Sandor. It was not a tourney fight, and there were not any other one off battles by Wiggum (though someone did a Brienne vs. Dontos poll, dunno why). Bronn vs. Sandor was just done by popular demand because people may revere BFS and admire the Sword of the Morning, but they crave Bronn and Sandor!

By the way, the poll is still open... so cast your vote!